Collection Received on Consignment - Many Fakes

[Din X]

The Hadrian Sestertius is actually a cast fake, there are twins in fake reports

See for example the same nick on reverse before COS, at about 1 o´clock

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=12551q00.jpg&vpar=3243&zpg=118087&fld=

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pid=15659

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pid=19878

[Din X]

Nero is from Petar Petrov, see 8.A _Catalogue_Roman_Denarius number 490 A
X means that the die is or are broken and that no replicas are available for sale anymore from these dies.

[Din X]

This one is a cast fake of a Lipanoff transfer die forgery

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=12601q00.jpg&vpar=3243&zpg=118137&fld=

bottom picture shows 2 real pressed Lipanoff transfer die forgeries from this reverse die and one from the same obverse die.

[Din X]

Julius Caesar is again from Petar Petrov

8.A _Catalogue_Roman_Denarius number 203 b

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=12666q00.jpg&vpar=3243&zpg=118202&fld=

[Din X]

Philip V Tetradrachm again Petar Petrov

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=12651q00.jpg&vpar=3243&zpg=118187&fld=

3_Catalogue_Greek_Tetradrachm number 6790 A

[Din X]

Again Petar Petrov, 01_1_Catalogue_Stater number 3450A

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=12595q00.jpg&vpar=3243&zpg=118131&fld=

[Din X]

The Demetrios Tetradrachm is a Beirut forgery, the cut off throat would speak for the theory that they have copied obverse die from real specimens but extremly recut the revers dies.

You can look at the edge it will be equally thick everywhere (because pressed) and most have a very smooth edge with no or only small edge cracks.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=12654q00.jpg&vpar=3243&zpg=118190&fld=

[Din X]

Thea is a Beirut forgery, too


You can look at the edge it will be equally thick everywhere (because pressed) and most have a very smooth edge with no or only small edge cracks.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=12655q00.jpg&vpar=3243&zpg=118191&fld=

[Din X]

This is a really bad cast fake, twins with same edge cracks in fake reports

Mark Antony & Julius Caesar

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=12670q00.jpg&vpar=3243&zpg=118206&fld=

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pid=2352

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pid=11861

[Din X]

The Julius Caesar is imho a Bulgarian fake, the style is off and reminds me on the fakes sold by demetrius7107.

I have only 2 fake from the same dies in my fake database both sold by fake sellers


https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=12597q00.jpg&vpar=3243&zpg=118133&fld=

[Din X]

The Augustus is fake, too.
One was sold by fake seller helmut15 on ebay.
I think modern dies, or extremely recut transfer dies.
All these fakes from this fake seller and his alias habe this softness but all different centering and details so they are clearly not cast.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=12616q00.jpg&vpar=3243&zpg=118152&fld=

One is in fake reports wrongly as cast, they are struck or pressed

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pid=19105

 

[Din X]

The Otho is a very obvious cast fakes several twins in fake reports

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=12661q00.jpg&vpar=3243&zpg=118197&fld=

Same scratch right to E on reverse

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pid=5958


https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pid=17107

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pid=15494

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pid=3278

[Din X]

The Vitellius is a cast fake (2,993g), I think I have seen a twin but did not save it, but I know the authentic mother (weight 3,31g)

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=12591q00.jpg&vpar=3243&zpg=118127&fld=

Authentic mother

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=4565478

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3329215

[Callimachus]

Unfortunately for coin dealers, this type of situation is going to become more frequent.
Counterfeit ancient coins are everywhere online, and people buy them because they can get a $1000 coin for $50.
Eventually they will die, and their heirs will bring the collection to a dealer who will have to give then the bad news.
Sad.

[Joe Sermarini]

Still a few unknown types and some with uncertain authenticity. Any help you can provide will be greatly appreciated. I expect a few will have to go to NGC for a second opinion.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=3243

[Virgil H]

This is amazing work by the members here. Here is what I wonder, is there any chance this guy was intentionally buying forgeries? Some people collect them and many seem to be from well know forgers/replica makers. Just a thought. I wonder if the widow can fain any records in a file cabinet or the like. Or was this just a collector with no clue. Very interesting, although tragic if she thinks she is going to make a lot of money off these. Sad for her regardless of what the collector's actual intent was.

Virgil

[Din X]

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=12634q00.jpg&vpar=3243&zpg=118170&fld=


https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=9706422

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=8317382

If you enter "2 kreuzer Friedberg" in google picture search you will find many matches

2 Kreuzer are authentic and from Friedberg in the Wetterau

DEUTSCHLAND Friedberg i.d.Wetterau Johann Eberhard v.Cronenb.1577-1617 2 Kreuzer (1/2 Batzen) 1592 Lejeune: 18

CAS T IMP FRIDB WETTERAV

RVDOL Z  IMP AVG PF DECR

Legenden

https://books.google.de/books?id=brNMAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA191&lpg=PA191&dq=IMP+FRIDB+WETTER&source=bl&ots=MPvGmQeLiQ&sig=ACfU3U2wWwvNxasxjk1Low2ZhvAyG8KviA&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwio7Ky_qqKAAxXmhP0HHaYtD34Q6AF6BAg0EAM#v=onepage&q=IMP%20FRIDB%20WETTER&f=false

[Joe Sermarini]

This is amazing work by the members here. Here is what I wonder, is there any chance this guy was intentionally buying forgeries? Some people collect them and many seem to be from well know forgers/replica makers. Just a thought. I wonder if the widow can fain any records in a file cabinet or the like. Or was this just a collector with no clue. Very interesting, although tragic if she thinks she is going to make a lot of money off these. Sad for her regardless of what the collector's actual intent was.

Virgil

I don't know if he knew. 

[Joe Sermarini]

2 Kreuzer are authentic and from Friedberg in the Wetterau

Thanks Din X!

[Joe Sermarini]

I greatly appreciate all the help with this consignment so far. Your help will save the consignor (a widow) some certification charges.

I have removed all the condemned coins and added ALL the rest of the coins to the page. If you have the time and some knowledge of fakes, please take one more look. If you can help, I have two questions:

Are there any coins marked "sending to NGC" that you can confirm are fake to save the cost of certification?

Are there any coins not marked "sending to NGC" that you think are suspicious and should be sent to NGC? I think they are OK, but they did come in bad company and I am not done with them yet.

If you agree with the current "sending to NGC" list, please let me know that too.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=3243

Thanks, Joe

[Callimachus]

In the description of the Diocletian abdication follis you write, "Copy of close type, KS in bottom center???"
I suspect this coin is from Trier rather than Cyzicus.
There does not seem to be a KS between the figures on the reverse, not even a poorly struck KS (similar to the TPR).
Compare with the coins shown here:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=68887.0

[Lech Stępniewski]

I suspect this coin is from Trier rather than Cyzicus.

Style of portrait is Treveran. I also don't see KS in the middle field.

[Joe Sermarini]

Thanks. Yes, the description is a copy and paste of the closet type we have had before. We apparently have never had the type from Trier before. The notes indicate the attribution is not done yet.

[Pekka K]

GA112640 shows some doubtful features, when compared to:

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=9691910

Pekka K

[Joe Sermarini]

Yes, especially the weight. I think very likely fake.