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Offline 77HK77

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Saloninus Antoninianus
« on: January 28, 2011, 03:13:45 pm »
This coin caught my eye but the reverse seems to have a blundered ledgend. The examples I found all have a PVBLICA rather than the P BLIC displayed on this coin. From what I've read Quality Control was lacking during this period.
Is this a typical blunder for this family?

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Re: Saloninus Antoninianus
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2011, 03:37:25 pm »
Looks like a clogged die to me. You can see blobs where the letters should be.
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Re: Saloninus Antoninianus
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2011, 05:08:54 pm »
Thanks,

I'm somewhat new to ancients and had not thought of a clogged die.
In the world of modern coins a die error can send the price way up, but in ancients with so many variables to each die it seems to have no positive price impact.

Does it have a significant negative impact?
Does the clogged die make it less desirable?

 

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Re: Saloninus Antoninianus
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2011, 06:03:36 pm »
I think it affects the price negatively as far as perfectionist collectors are concerned (or better, they would not buy such a coin). But for the average collector probably not so much.
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Re: Saloninus Antoninianus
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2011, 06:50:13 pm »
Even the average collector will generally pay a little more for a fully struck piece without clogged letters.

He will certainly not pay EXTRA for the clogged letters, which he will view negatively as damage, not positively as unusual mint errors.
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Re: Saloninus Antoninianus
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2011, 06:58:03 pm »
Thanks

Makes one wonder what the workers thought; "forget it, no one will notice" or "stop need to fix this die"


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Re: Saloninus Antoninianus
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2011, 04:28:08 pm »
I very much doubt whether they bothered to look that closely at the coins!
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Re: Saloninus Antoninianus
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2011, 02:34:00 pm »
Another question on this coin and I guess this period in general.

I have the coin in hand and it looks ok but it is very light, 2.88g

In doing some research on line the range seems to be 3.10 to 3.34 (5 coins) with a couple listed heavier at 3.82 and 4.24g which show a similar reverse (wreath between rather than star).

One group of three coins - all listed as Antioch ranged 3.6-3.77g

What is the typical weight during this time?

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Re: Saloninus Antoninianus
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 09:28:54 am »
If it's of any help, I have four antoniniani from that period (Saloninus and Valerianus II). They're not from Antioch but from Cologne and Rome.
Their weights are 1,70 - 2,85 - 2,88 - 3,66

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Re: Saloninus Antoninianus
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2011, 02:04:51 pm »
Thanks Potator

Can anyone point to some research material for this time. I'm curious as to why such variance was occuring, inflation, change in silver content etc.

It would be interesting to know as I pursue more coins from this period

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Re: Saloninus Antoninianus
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2011, 08:33:27 pm »
I think the explanation for the broad weight variances in coins of this period is due to the same reason as the clogged dies and other mint errors: quality control -- or lack thereof.
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Re: Saloninus Antoninianus
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2011, 10:42:25 am »
Thanks Commodus

I been reading through the info here on the Hoard of Gallienus' target='_blank'>Antioch hoard - were the weights for this hoard published anywhere? I did not see weights listed in the info, other than those on sale.

Having spent a lot of time on the period of Nerva to Marcus Aurelius I think the chaos of this period is tugging at my interest. A tug sure to cost me money

 

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