Byzantine AR cilinder shape weight, with "N" and 4 cross made out of wedges,

[quadrans]

Byzantine AR cilinder shape weight, with "N" and 4 cross made out of wedges,

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Byzantine AR cilinder shape weight, with "N" and 4 cross made out of wedges, #57
type: Byzantine AR weight,
size: 10,6x10,6x1,3mm,
weight: 0,90g,
date: centuries A.D.,
ref:
distribution: Byzantine,

Some of you have any idea , the distribution? and date? or some reference ?

 Thank you.

 Regards

 Q.

[wileyc]

Rarely see them with the triangular punch marks, not sure if that in itself has meaning or was just a handy device. I have what I presume is a Islamic weight with triangular punch marks. weighs 5.9g

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In Weber no 450 he has one with a cross pattern using triangular punches. that weighs 4.3 g

Weber, Klaus. Byzantinische Münzgewichte: Materialkorpus Für 1-Nomisma-Gewichte : Studien Zur Vielfalt Der Ausführungsform, Metrologie Und Herstellung. Beihefte zur Zeitschrift für Metrologie, Issue 10. (Solingen, 2009)

at .9g and in good condition. it would be reasonable to consider it a one scripula weight. 

cw

[quadrans]

Hi CW,

 Thank you your comment, very appreciate..

 I have this book of Klaus Weber, I will look after ...., at the firs glance I do not find any mach..
but after your suggestion I will look....

 Regards
 Q.

[quadrans]

Based on more accurate tests, especially the revers side,
 it appears that it is not weight, but rather a ring head.
 With broken off.

 Regards
 Q.

[Gert]

Yes, I think this might well be the bezel of a Byzantine ring. The roughness on the reverse could be where the hoop was originally attached. If it is at the correct angle with the obverse, then I think this must be the best explanation. If it were a weight, N must stand for nomisma, but at 0.90g this is much too light.
Regards
Gert

[Gert]

Compare this silver ring bezel with the Theotokos and Infant Christ.
Regards
Gert

[quadrans]

Hi Gert,
 Nice to hear you

 Happy New Year

 Thank you your additional explanation and the nice photo of your ring head 

 Best regards
 Q.

[wileyc]

remarkable match for the ring head that Gert shows, interesting!

cw

[quadrans]

remarkable match for the ring head that Gert shows, interesting!

cw

 

Q.

[wileyc]

You wonder then likely it was a coin weight that was then filed down and converted in to a ringhead?

cw

[quadrans]

Hi "cw",

Thank you your discussion

I think that this was the first time a ring head, the decoration is very similar to the decoration of the coin weight.
This was the reason that, after breaking off from the ring, would be mixed with the coin weight.

 Regards
 Q.

[apgrassman]

I have seen probably like a lot of people similar cross marks produced as Countermarks on Byzantine follis of Anastasius, i think they are normally applied to the smaller coins before reform.

regards
apgrassman

[quadrans]

I have seen probably like a lot of people similar cross marks produced as Countermarks on Byzantine follis of Anastasius, i think they are normally applied to the smaller coins before reform.

regards
apgrassman

 Thank you your openion apgrassman..

 Regards
 Q.