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Septimius Severus???
« on: September 30, 2004, 03:08:07 pm »
Hy,

I can't identify this coin, pleas help meeeeeee ;)



size: 19 mm
weight: 4,5 gr

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Re:Septimius Severus???
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2004, 06:40:01 pm »
    Yes, clearly Sept. Severus.  
    Rev. shows Dionysus, emptying cup to panther seated at his feet, and probably holding thyrsus in lowered l. hand.
     Only WN of the ethnic survives, but the size and spacing of the letters show that it was a short word, probably no more than seven letters.    
      If the coin was found in Bulgaria, Serdica would be a likely candidate, with ethnic [CEP--D]WN.  
      The coin would then be a variant of Ruzicka, Die Muenzen von Serdica, no. 48, also an AE 19 of Sept. Sev., but with a variant type of Dionysus (no panther, l. hand holding thyrsus is raised), and the longer ethnic OVLPIAC CEPDIKHC.
      The only way to finalize the attribution would be to find another specimen of the same coin with legible ethnic, or a coin with a different reverse type with legible ethnic but struck from the same obv. die.
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Re:Septimius Severus???
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2004, 09:55:59 pm »
Curtis, sincerely not meaning any offence, your analysis of this specimen is exactly what I would expect from one who had any claim to the pursuit of " forensic numismatics"!
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Re:Septimius Severus???
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2004, 10:10:30 pm »
Dear Whitetd49,
       Thanks for the compliment (?).
       I wouldn't say there is anything "forensic" about my analysis, however.  It's simply a logical guess based on the evidence available; and could easily be proved to be wrong by a better specimen!
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2004, 10:17:05 pm »
Dear Whitetd49,
       Thanks for the compliment (?).
       I wouldn't say there is anything "forensic" about my analysis, however.  It's simply a logical guess based on the evidence available; and could easily be proved to be wrong by a better specimen!
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Curtis, it was indeed a compliment!  The sentence "It's simply a logical guess based on the evidence available; and could easily be proved to be wrong by a better specimen!" is the exact definition of forensics!
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Re:Septimius Severus???
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2004, 10:37:44 pm »
Heck, that's not what Alan and Art seem to think!
Would anyone care to inform them?
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2004, 08:23:34 am »
They have been informed ad nauseum.  I despair that they will never understand that you form your hypotheses on available evidence and test them by falsification and not advocating why everyone else is wrong.
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