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Offline Martin S3

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A.Pius as
« on: February 18, 2024, 06:30:41 am »
This A.Pius as was sold by spanish auction house. Is this a modern forgery combining obverse from known die (for example coin sold by NAC, auction 59, lot 1990) with fantasy, impossible reverse ? Or something else ?

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Re: A.Pius as
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2024, 08:49:38 am »
Why do you think so? Have you verified this reverse is not paired with this obverse in RIC? Did you check the fake coin reports?
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Re: A.Pius as
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2024, 09:07:32 am »
Feminine personification with peacock combined with emperors title inscription. There is not only no such pair obv/rev in RIC but also not such reverse at all (or I don't see it ;-)). I did check fake coin reports but found nothing.

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Re: A.Pius as
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2024, 09:42:00 am »
I don't know coins of Pius but perhaps a mule with the reverse from a parellel issue?

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Re: A.Pius as
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2024, 10:05:51 am »

Seated Juno with peacock belongs to Faustina II, but not with this legend.

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Re: A.Pius as
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2024, 06:40:36 pm »
An interesting coin, and certainly authentic in my opinion.

As Martin notes, the obverse die seems to be the same as that of the NAC 59 coin that he found, lot 1990, where the reverse type is Spes advancing  left, with the same reverse legend TR POT - COS III S - C.

Pekka K points out that the type of  Juno  seated left, holding Three Graces in right hand and transverse scepter in left, occurs with rev. legend IVNO S C on asses of Faustina II struck late in the reign of Antoninus Pius, her obverse legend being

FAVSTINA AVG PII AVG FIL or

FAVSTINA AVGVSTA AVG PII F.

On these asses a peacock is usually shown on the left, before Juno's legs.

On the Spanish auction coin of Antoninus Pius that Martin has asked about, the Juno seated rev. type is the same, but the legend is TR POT COS III (140-144 AD), the peacock is behind rather before Juno, and the obverse bust is laureate, draped, seen from side, legend ANTONINVS - AVG PIVS P P.

Two other comparable asses:

1. Strack 890, pl. XI, in Bologna, obv. Head laureate right, ANTONINVS - AVG PIVS P P, rev. peacock  either on left or omitted (coin is corroded), definitely not on right.

2. Rauch, Summer 2009, lot 890, from the same obv. die as the Bologna coin illustrated by Strack, on reverse peacock on left.


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Re: A.Pius as
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2024, 07:42:15 pm »
Thank you very much, Curtis. What could have been the reason for producing such a reverse on the coin of A.Pius ?

BTW, I've got above mentioned Faustina II as with (very nice) peacock on left and clearly visible (but not good looking ;-)) Three Graces (it's also rarer version with Faustina bust left).

 

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