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Offline Aarmale

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Confirm fake First Revolt 1/8th
« on: July 18, 2011, 05:31:26 pm »
From an EBay listing.
Style is completely off, and there are some spelling/epigraphic mistakes. 

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Re: Confirm fake First Revolt 1/8th
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2011, 10:09:13 am »
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Re: Confirm fake First Revolt 1/8th
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2011, 10:57:05 am »
Joe, do you feel that the evidence is sufficient?
Another question is regarding the seller. This person sometimes sells fakes and misattributes his coins. Most probably, this results from ignorance, rather than from evil intent, because his errors are usually obvious. However, he never responds to e-mails. Does he belong to NFSL?
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Re: Confirm fake First Revolt 1/8th
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2011, 11:28:27 am »
I would be very surprised to learn this is genuine, however, there is no hurry.  We can wait for other opinions.

The seller is certainly worthy of nomination but may not be notorious enough to go on the list. 
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Re: Confirm fake First Revolt 1/8th
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2011, 12:13:44 pm »
His eBay ID is israeselling.
BTW, here is his '1/8th' that I reported a while ago:
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?album=search&cat=0&pos=16
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Re: Confirm fake First Revolt 1/8th
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2011, 12:15:12 pm »
FWIW, this coin was initially listed, sold to a winning bidder, then, lo and behold, listed again a couple of weeks later, by the original seller.
Draw your own conclusions.
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Re: Confirm fake First Revolt 1/8th
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2011, 04:21:54 pm »
This seller has always thrown in numerous questionable coins. In fact this coin right here which looks cast to my inexperienced eyes is being sold twice.
Now this could be an honest mistake, a double listing, but I have emailed him before about this coin which he insists on calling Craudius instead of Claudius.

Craudius has been for sale several times over the last year. Many of his coins are no doubt genuine too.

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Re: Confirm fake First Revolt 1/8th
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2011, 04:49:03 pm »
Please provide a link to the sellers item listing on eBay (the only time we really want a link to an eBay seller is when they are nominated for the NFSL). 
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Re: Confirm fake First Revolt 1/8th
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2011, 05:52:05 pm »
The link we really want for nominations is the all items list:  http://shop.ebay.com/israeselling/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

This guy has over 7000 items on eBay!  With that volume and perhaps limited knowledge of ancients, I would expect a fake coin now and then.  They should, however, respond to email notifications.  
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Re: Confirm fake First Revolt 1/8th
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2011, 06:02:37 pm »
The First Revolt 1/8th is a fake. Compare the specimen in question with a legitmate one.
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Re: Confirm fake First Revolt 1/8th
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2011, 09:24:21 pm »
Quote from: commodus on July 20, 2011, 06:02:37 pm
Compare the First Revolt specimen with a legitmate one and it is more obvious.
Compare with these real ones:




Look at the disconnected lines on letters Vav and Yud (ו and י) at 7:00-9:00 on the side of the chalice.  As well, note the lack of the letter Nun (נ) on the side of the chalice, that should be at about 6:00.
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