Author Topic: Is this the real Silbannacus? (Read 10848 times)

Beast · « **Reply #25 on:** January 25, 2009, 10:56:17 pm »

Quote from: septimus on January 20, 2009, 06:55:37 am

I've heard that there is a third one. Is it right?

Folks,

Freeman and Sear had an example at their table at CICF around 5 years ago. I looked at the piece, which had a reverse type of the same as the BM piece (Mercury holding Victory). I may be wrong, but I think this is the only type with this reverse depiction and I mentioned to Rob Freeman at the time my interpretation of it was Mercury was to swiftly deliver the message of victorious usurpation to some other co-conspirator (Sponsianus? Pacatian? Jotapian?). We many never know.

As it turned out, the example Freeman and Sear had was a good fake. Looked fairly convincing in hand of a rough debased antoninianus, but I believe it was determined to be a Bulgarian forgery.

--Beast

Beast · « **Reply #26 on:** January 25, 2009, 11:20:17 pm »

Quote from: Serdinum on January 20, 2009, 11:59:29 am

I only know, that my pic looks better but in the site, that i took it from there was just the obv.... If you can find or you have more pics of unique coins (or very very rare) please, post them here. Thanks

Other nearly unique coins? You mean like Domitian II?

Domitianus II Antoninianus, struck 271 AD at mint I.
Obv: IMP C DOMITIANVS P F AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust right.
Rev: CONCORDIA MILITVM, Concordia standing left, holding patera and cornucopiae.
RN 1901, p. 317; L. Lafranchi, RIN 1942, p. 3.
Specimen of the Bibliothèque Nationale de France.

Or the Postumus aureus in the BM?

--Beast

Serdinum · « **Reply #27 on:** January 25, 2009, 11:56:59 pm »

Wonderful coins Beast, thank you. When I saw the hole in the Postomus aureus I just wanted to cry

Rupert · « **Reply #28 on:** January 26, 2009, 03:44:40 pm »

Oh well, it could have come worse. Sure the person who did it was a dumbhead, but he could have done far greater damage than he did.

Rupert

areich · « **Reply #29 on:** January 26, 2009, 03:47:10 pm »

What does it matter?
It might lower the price but it doesn't lower the coin's appeal a bit.

Rupert · « **Reply #30 on:** January 26, 2009, 04:07:36 pm »

Quote from: areich on January 26, 2009, 03:47:10 pm

It might lower the price...

I'm afraid it wouldn't.

Rupert

areich · « **Reply #31 on:** January 26, 2009, 04:13:17 pm »

Well, theoretically, if there were more of this type around.
Not that it would make much of a difference to most collectors.

Beast · « **Reply #32 on:** January 26, 2009, 04:14:58 pm »

I can't imagine the British Museum ever plans on selling the piece, so even guessing at a price would simply be that - a guess.

Probably the closest anyone is going to get to anything as dramatic in a Postumus aureus would be something along these lines:

Image courtesy Tkalec, Bolla Auction, Lot 81, February 2007 (Realized ~$78,000 plus buyers fees)

--Beast

Rupert · « **Reply #33 on:** January 26, 2009, 04:56:50 pm »

Not much money really for such a coin, is it? Yes, of course, still too much for me but...

Rupert

Mark Z · « **Reply #34 on:** January 29, 2009, 07:13:50 pm »

WOW! What a coin!

Not to be too overly dramatic, but that takes my breath away!

Thanks for the pic!
mz

*Alex · « **Reply #35 on:** January 30, 2009, 06:14:37 am »

Hi Serdinum,

Here are some more rarities for you.

Alex.

*Alex · « **Reply #36 on:** January 30, 2009, 06:17:59 am »

... and these.

Alex.

Serdinum · « **Reply #37 on:** January 30, 2009, 06:50:56 am »

Thank you Alex, very very interesting coins, I definitely will place some of them on my background

Mark Z · « **Reply #38 on:** January 30, 2009, 07:59:42 pm »

Regarding the Priscus Attalus:

SIGH!

mz

Rupert · « **Reply #39 on:** January 31, 2009, 04:44:37 am »

What's the matter, Mark? Were you the second bidder on that coin at an auction?

Rupert

SEstiot · « **Reply #40 on:** February 17, 2009, 11:54:55 am »

For copyright reasons, Persée doesn't show the pictures from the French Revue Numismatique for now ; it will in some next future.
Please get in touch with my if you are interested in an offprint of my article on Silbannacus (S. Estiot, L’empereur Silbannacus, un second antoninien, Revue Numismatique 151 (1996), p. 105-117, pl. XV-XVI), as well on Saturninus (S. Estiot, Le tyran Saturninus : le dossier numismatique, Historiae Augustae Colloquium Perusinum. Atti dei Convegni sulla Historia Augusta VIII (Bari, 2002), p. 209-241), and if you are interested in "rare" emperors, on Domitianus II (S. Estiot, G. Salaün, L’usurpateur Domitianus (271 de n. è.), Revue Numismatique 160 (2004), p. 201-218, pl. XIV-XV).
Cordialement.
S. Estiot

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David Atherton · « **Reply #41 on:** February 17, 2009, 11:15:28 pm »

Here is a unique Vespasian denarius in the BM:

RIC 689, BMC 47, RSC 571
Rome Mint, 74 AD
Obv - No legend; Head of Sol, facing
Rev - VESPASIA-NVS across field; Vespasian stg. l., with spear

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