Septimius Severus to ID

[Canaan]

Hello to all i have this Septimius Severus coin, it is 17mm and 2.36 which i think consistent with a fourree denarius core, so coyld it be this or a worned coin and if so if any one can help me with references please?

[shanxi]

you can read ..SEPT SEV AV.. on the obverse an CO.. on the reverse

Therfore maybe an imitation of this denar:


https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3173094

[Canaan]

Thanks a lot Shanxi for the usual help.

[Canaan]

Or it could be a bronze assarion

[TenthGen]

Asses (or Assarii) were usually larger than this coin, ~25 mm. The tight flan is also characteristic of Severus Denarii, too. Shanxi is very likely correct that this coin is intended to resemble a L SEPT SEV AVG IMP XI PART MAX type. It is also likely of the COS II or III P P type. You can even see the last P on the reverse near Victory's feet.

However, instead of being an imitation, I think this is probably a Limes Denarius. Limes are quite common during the Severan period, and given that everything left of the coin resembles official style other than the metal, I would lean that direction. It would be hard to tell the difference at this point, much less if that difference is even meaningful.


So, an approximate attribution:

Septimius Severus Limes Denarius. Uncertain mint, Circa 200 AD. L SEPT SEV AVG [IMP XI PART MAX], laureate head right / COS [II?] P P, Victory advancing left, holding wreath and palm. Limes of RIC 125 (RSC 96), 503a (RSC 96), RIC 504 (RSC 100), or similar.

[Canaan]

Hello TenthGen, i agree with you and this was also my initial thought that it is a lime denarius until i have  seen this coin on FORVM shop:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?param=83890q00.jpg&vpar=1554&zpg=90009&fld=https://www.forumancientcoins.com/Coins2/

[maridvnvm]

The portrait style appears to be closer to Rome mint denarii that anything else. The reverse seems to start CO and ends P so COS II P P seems likely. I can't see it being anything other than a fouree core of some for copying RIC 125.

[curtislclay]

However, as far as I know IMP XI PART MAX / COS II P P Victory denarii occur only at the new-style Syrian mint, not at Rome.

It was a mistake of RIC 125 and BMC p. 176, * to list this type under the mint of Rome, giving only Cohen 96 as authority, since Cohen did not specify the style of the specimens he had seen, in the Paris collection which he cites and elsewhere. So RIC and BMC should merely have mentioned this type in a footnote, saying that it definitely occurs at the Syrian mint but apparently not on Rome-mint denarii.

[Canaan]

So it is :
Septimius Severus Limes Denarius. Uncertain mint, Circa 200 AD. L SEPT SEV AVG [IMP XI PART MAX], laureate head right / COS [II?] P P, Victory advancing left, holding wreath and palm. Limes of RIC 125 (RSC 96) As TenthGen mentiond before???

[TenthGen]

So it is :
Septimius Severus Limes Denarius. Uncertain mint, Circa 200 AD. L SEPT SEV AVG [IMP XI PART MAX], laureate head right / COS [II?] P P, Victory advancing left, holding wreath and palm. Limes of RIC 125 (RSC 96)  ... As TenthGen mentiond before???

Maybe! I'm far from certain, and the experience of maridvnvm and Curtis is vastly greater than my own. For instance, I had no idea that RIC 125 mint was in error.

[maridvnvm]

With limes /fouree you often end up with varieties that don't match coins actually existed creating apparent mules etc. These were not official output so there weren't any rules.

[Canaan]

Thank you friends for you time and expertise