Greetings Everyone,
I am happy to announce that I have drastically restructured the table and have hopefully created the most up-to-date presentation of this subject available. Since I believe this project now deserves its own page, I moved it here:
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=Anonymous%20Byzantine%20Class%20A%20FollesI also updated the address in my first post on this
thread so new readers won't click "
Ornamentation" and feel lost. I left a link on that old page to direct people to this project though. "
Ornamentation" can
still be a useful page with other coins and their
Class A Folles' target='_blank'>ornaments, such as the "
VICTORIAE LAETAE PRINC PERP" series. I already drew them and they are among the reply
symbols. Perhaps someday they can be organized in that Wiki page.
In studying the
Grierson table, I decided to combine it with the
Bellinger table and even research the issues myself. While
Grierson was meant to be an update and replacement for
Bellinger, it too is not the
complete and final authority on the subject.
Nor was it intended to be. While
Grierson does correct and update
Bellinger in several entries,
Bellinger was actually correct over
Grierson on one issue so far. Also, the
Grierson table
had a few errors itself which I
corrected. Other
Class A Folles' target='_blank'>ornaments also differed in just an artistic sense in comparison to the actual coins and I redrew them to conform more with the real thing.
I also moved the variants that we have discovered into this updated table to better show the relationships between them and similar variants. I placed an "F" in front of their numbers to designate them as discoveries of this
FORVM effort. This way, people hopefully won't look for these new variants in the original tables and find themselves confused. I continue the existing tradition of the
Grierson table to label them as "a", "b", "c" and so on. If a coin is a variant of one of those letters, then a number is added after said letter (e.g. "a2", "a3", "a4"). As a result, the following numbers have changed:
— "1F" is actually "41" and is thus no longer a new variant
— "2F" becomes "F24c"
— "3F" becomes "F33b"
The coin that
Orthodoxcoins shares above has been named "F1b". Byzantiumcoins also shared photos of several new variants with me and they have been named and added to the table.
Cmcdon0923's coin, while not a new variant, does identify the previously unknown book
Class A Folles' target='_blank'>ornament of "24a". For some strange reason, the
NumisWiki persists in dropping the "cd" from
his name so I used
his name "
Craig" in the credits.
As for the organization of this effort, here are the features in order of appearance:
— An illustrative example of how a
Class A Follis is arranged.
— The table for official issues. It is color-coded to show the evolution of the research conducted by
Bellinger,
Grierson and ourselves.
Bellinger entries that were obviously
corrected by
Grierson have been replaced by the latter on the table. Conflicting entries that are
still in doubt are both listed. Hopefully we can resolve them shortly in subsequent discussions.
Grierson skips several numbers completely that are probably examples
Bellinger erroneously listed as separate from nearby entries. However, they are noted as such and will be left in place so all numbers are accounted for.
— Another table for
contemporary imitations. Since these were not official issues and will not likely fit well among them in the main table, they need to have their own table. When top and bottom
reverse Class A Folles' target='_blank'>ornaments differ in either table, the entry space is enlarged and both are shown.
— The
legend for the color-coding used in the tables.
— A quote from
Metcalf speculating on the existence of at least one
provincial mint for these issues beyond just the
mint of
Constantinople striking them.
— Notes on Integrating the
Bellinger and
Grierson Tables
— Notes for Updates, Corrections and Variants Not Listed in the Original Tables
— Outstanding Issues (that need to be resolved)
— Sources for the Original Tables (Bibliography)
As the
Grierson table was not meant to be the final say for this topic, neither is the table that I created. It is intended to be an ongoing project as corrections may have to be made and it is definitely open-ended concerning future discoveries of new variants and unknown
Class A Folles' target='_blank'>ornaments to known variants. If you have any updates for it, please make
a post to this
thread or send me a Personal Message. I
hope to start addressing the "Outstanding Issues" in the very near future in this
thread but I invite you to beat me to it in discussing them
Thank You and Enjoy,
Kevin