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Another Rare Probus Legendvariation, VIRTVS-PROBI-INVICTI-AVG,
« on: September 08, 2013, 09:37:40 am »
Another Rare Probus Legendvariation, VIRTVS-PROBI-INVICTI-AVG,



Probus (276-282 A.D.), AE-Antoninianus, RIC V-II 482, Ticinum, CONCORD MILIT, Bust-G, Concordia standing left, Rare!!!
This coin is part of the EQVITI series (E) of Ticinum.
avers:- VIRTVS-PROBI-INVICTI-AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield.(G)
revers:- CON-CORD-MILIT, Concordia standing left, holding two ensigns.
exerg: E/-//P-XXI, diameter: 22-23mm, weight: 3,63g, axis: 6h,
mint: Ticinum, date: 279 A.D., ref: RIC V-II 482, p-69, Rare !!!,

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Re: Another Rare Probus Legendvariation, VIRTVS-PROBI-INVICTI-AVG,
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2013, 03:27:19 pm »
Nice one Joe,

The Legend Type is relatively common for the Ticinum mint.
But I do not know the rarity of the combination ( this obverse + Reverse )

But anyway, its a nice coin.




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Re: Another Rare Probus Legendvariation, VIRTVS-PROBI-INVICTI-AVG,
« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2013, 04:47:43 pm »
Thank you Simon The RIC listed
as Rare but ....???   

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Re: Another Rare Probus Legendvariation, VIRTVS-PROBI-INVICTI-AVG,
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2013, 05:27:43 am »
You shouldn't give too much credit to the rarity ratings of RIC V, which are often based on Cohen. Cohen, however, did not give rarity ratings but price estimates, which reflect more the popularity of a type than its rarity (although the latter often is part of the former). So a coin with the interesting and popular INVICTI legend will usually be rated higher in Cohen than one without, even if it is as a type not necessarily rarer.

Also, don't forget that massive numbers of new Probus coins have shown up since RIC V was published. You can trust Simon when it comes to rarity, he is an experienced collector and has an excellent oversight over the Probus market.

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Re: Another Rare Probus Legendvariation, VIRTVS-PROBI-INVICTI-AVG,
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2013, 03:47:10 pm »
Hi Lars !

At first I thank you your comment.

I can trust Simon because I saw his collection (in the Gallery), and it is not a first time when he send me some post like you.
Of course I accepted your openion the RIC V, are slowly 50 years old...  :'(.
Any way,  the rarity the coin as not the same the rarity of the legend variation.

About this coin I do not now exactly what are the rarity exactly this coin, that was the the question of me.
In may collection are started aprox. 40 years ago to collect Probus  coins, and I have several hundred, and saw several thousand of Probus coin, but this is the first what I have.  :)
May be this  coin are common :),  ;) +++

again thank you.
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Re: Another Rare Probus Legendvariation, VIRTVS-PROBI-INVICTI-AVG,
« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2013, 03:48:12 am »
Hi Joe,

yes, I wasn't commenting specifically on your coin which, of course, may or may not be a rare obverse-reverse-combination! I guess you will have to wait for S. Estiot's opinion, who will certainly know.

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Re: Another Rare Probus Legendvariation, VIRTVS-PROBI-INVICTI-AVG,
« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2013, 04:54:13 am »
 :laugh:

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Re: Another Rare Probus Legendvariation, VIRTVS-PROBI-INVICTI-AVG,
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2013, 10:05:18 am »

Hello,
I know 15 coins similar to Quadrans' . 5 examples in the Tyrolian Navis-Mühlen hoard alone (Navis 817-821), 3 in Vienna, etc.
This EQVITI emission is quite enormous...
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Re: Another Rare Probus Legendvariation, VIRTVS-PROBI-INVICTI-AVG,
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2013, 02:01:31 pm »
Thank you very much  S. Estiot

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