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Roman Empire, Nero Claudius Drusus d. 9 BC, SestertiusHead of Nero Claudius Drusus left "NERO CLAVDIVS DRVSVS GERMANICUS IMP"
Claudius seated left holding a branch his feet on a cuirass. Around the chair are shileds, a spear and helmet. "TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG PM TR P IMP PP SC"
RIC 109
25.54gAntonivs Protti01/03/20 at 15:03Antonivs Protti: Thank you Jay GT4
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Domitian, AE Dupondius. 26 mm / 9,96 gr. 88-89 AD.Domitian: Caesar under Vespasian 69-79 AD; Caesar under Titus 79-81 AD; Augustus 81-96 AD.
Domitian, AE Dupondius. 26 mm / 9,96 gr. 88-89 AD.
IMP CAES DOMIT AVG GERM COS XIIII CENS PER PP, radiate head right with aegis / VIRTVTI AVGVSTI S-C, Virtus standing right, foot on helmet, holding spear and parazonium. RIC II 645; Paris 447; cf Sear 2798 (consular year). RIC 645 Antonivs Protti11/06/19 at 00:36Antonivs Protti: Thank you, Jay.
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Antonia, AE Dupondius - by ClaudiusAntonia AE Dupondius. c50-54 AD. ANTONIA AVGVSTA, draped bust right / TI CLAVDIVS CAESAR AVG P M TR P IMP P P S C, Claudius, togate, standing left with simpulum.
Cohen 6. RIC 104. sear5 #1903
WEIGHT 11.18 gr.
DIAMETER 28 mm
*Antonia, daughter of Mark Antony and Augustus' sister OctaviaAntonivs Protti10/28/19 at 17:55Antonivs Protti: Thank you Jay
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Sicily, Morgantina 339-317 BC, LitraHead of Apollo right "MOPGANTINWN" to right
Warrior on horseback left holding a spear.
0.45 gr.
SNG ANS 465Antonivs Protti11/21/15 at 21:10Antonivs Protti: Thank you, mdelvalle.
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Scarce gold fanam issued by Zamorinds of Calicut (ca.1300-1790 AD), Vira Raya type, Calicut (Kozhikodde) mint, IndiaThe normal abstract Boar / Lion type of a Calicut variety. Calicut (Kozhikodde) mint. 9mm, 0.38 grams. Herrli #1.12
The anonymous gold fanams were continuosely issued by the Zamorinds of Calicut for hundreds of years until the city and the mint were taken by Haidar Ali and later by the British.Antonivs Protti06/26/15 at 03:23Antonivs Protti: Hi David, all I know about this type of coin is wh...
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Vitellius (with Otho portrait) AR Denarius. VictoryVitellius (with Otho portrait) AR Denarius.
A VITELLIVS GERMAN IMP TRP, laureate head right
Victory seated left, holding patera in right hand and palm branch in left.
2.82gm. RSC 119; RIC 88 Antonivs Protti12/02/14 at 22:59Antonivs Protti: Thanks Jay
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Ptolemy I Soter AR Tetradrachm, portrait by the Delta-MasterPtolemy I Soter (305-282 BC). Tetradrachm (14.53 g), c. 294-285 BC, Alexandria.
Obv. Diademed head right, wearing aegis around neck; small Δ behind ear.
Rev. BAΣIΛEΩΣ ΠTOΛEMAIOY, eagle standing left on thunderbolt; to left, A above Δ.
Cf. Svoronos 190.
Splendid portrait. Areas of corrosion.
On this coin we encounter the first true portrait of one of Alexander's successors. The tiny letter Δ found in his hair behind the ear is the initial of the engraver, the so called Delta-Master.
Antonivs Protti06/17/14 at 11:55Antonivs Protti: Thank you, Randy.
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L. Titurius L.f. SabinusSABIN
Bare head of King Tatius right, bearded. Palm branch before
L TITVRI
Tarpeia facing, buried to her waist in shields, trying to ward off two soldiers who are about to cast their shields on her, star within crescent moon above
Rome, 89 BC
3.84g
Sear 251, RRC 344/2a
Ex-ANE from an old collection
Jet black toning.
One of the great legends of Rome commemorated on a coin. It tells the story of Rome being besieged by the Sabine king Titus Tatius after the "Rape" of the Sabine women. Tarpeia, daughter of the Roman commander Spurius Tarpeius, went out to the Sabine camp and offered them entry to the city in exchange for "what they bore on their left arms". She had meant their gold bracelets worn on their arms. Once inside the citadel the Sabines threw their shields—carried on the left arm—upon her, crushing her to death. Her body was then thrown from a steep cliff of the southern summit of the Capitoline Hill. The cliff was named the Tarpeian Rock after Tarpeia and would become the place of execution for Rome's most notorious traitors. King Tatius and Romulus soon were reconciled through the efforts of the abducted Sabine women who had come to love their Roman abductors. They jointly ruled over Rome for the next 5 years until Tatius death.Jay GT402/07/14 at 22:30Antonivs Protti: Trully magnificent!
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Mark Antony denariusBare head of a bearded Mark Antony right
C VIBVS VARVS
Fortuna standing left holding Victory and cornucopiae
Rome 42 BC
3.25g
Rough but much better in hand!
Sear 1466, RRC 494/32
ex-Londinium
Fortuna holding Victory shows the confidence the Triumvirs had in defeating the Ruplicans, namely Brutus and Cassius. Varus also struck this type for Octavian. It is interesting to note that on the evidence of stylistic similarity it is possible that the die-engraver responsible for the triumviral portraits was later transferred from the Capitoline mint to Antony's military mint outside the city.
The fact that Antony is again shown bearded is in reference to his mourning for Caesar's death. Only after Caesar was avenged would Antony be shown as a typical clean shaven Roman.Jay GT402/07/14 at 22:29Antonivs Protti: What a wonderful coin!
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Elagabalus AE27, Nikopolis ad Istrum - Moesia obv. AVT K M AVP ANTWNEINOC, laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right
rev. N-IKOP-OLITWN-PROC IC-TRW, legend in five lines within wreath.
AMNG 2011; Varbanov 3816. Moushmov 1112
27mm.,11,15g., _9466Antonivs Protti02/04/14 at 19:55Antonivs Protti: Thanks Randy. I'm so into provincial.
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Caracalla AE26 mm, Nikopolis ad Istrum, MoesiaCaracalla AE28 of Nikopolis, Moesia Inferior. Magistrate Aurelius Gallus. AV K M AV ANTWNINOC, laureate draped bust right / VP AVP GALLOV NIKOPOLIT PROC IC, Tyche standing left, modius on head, holding rudder & cornucopiae.
26mm.,11.37g. _5782
Hr-H-J (2012) 8.18.38.5Antonivs Protti02/04/14 at 18:40Antonivs Protti: It's the lovelly Nikopolis style
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ROMAN IMPERATORS, OCTAVIAN Denarius RIC 255Italian mint, possibly Rome, 31-30 BC
Anepigraph, bare head of Octavian left
CAESAR - DIVI F, Victory standing right on globe, holding wreath
3.84 gr
Ref : HCRI # 408, RCV # 1552v, Cohen # 66, RIC # 255Potator II02/02/14 at 05:22Antonivs Protti: Breath taking!
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Laranda, Lycaonia, c. 332 B.C.Laranda, known today as Karaman, Turkey, was destroyed by Perdiccas in about 322 B.C. and later became a seat of Isaurian pirates.
Silver obol, SNG Levante 225, SNG BnF 443, VF, 0.692g, 11.5mm, 270o, Laranda mint, c. 332 BC; obverse Baal seated left on backless throne, holding grain ear in right, long scepter vertical behind in left; reverse forepart of wolf right, crescent horns downward above, all within a double circular border of dotsRandygeki(h2)02/02/14 at 04:30Antonivs Protti: Beautifil coin.
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011 AgrippaAgrippa, Æ As. Agrippa. Struck under Caligula, 37-41 AD. M AGRIPPA L F COS III, head left wearing rostral crown / S-C, Neptune standing facing, head left, naked except for cloak draped behind him & over both arms, holding small dolphin in right hand & vertical trident in left. RIC 58 [Caligula], Cohen 3, BMC 161 [Tiberius]
It's a bit glossy and hard to get a great shotRandygeki(h2)02/02/14 at 04:28Antonivs Protti: Lovely Agrippa!
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Postumus Postumus AR Antoninianus, Lyons. 259 AD. IMP C POSTVMVS PF AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right / PM TRP COS I PP, Postumus standing left, holding globe and spear. RIC V-II Lyons 53Randygeki(h2)02/02/14 at 04:27Antonivs Protti: Great looking coin! 5 stars
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Gallienus, as joint ruler with Valerian, Billon Antoninianus RIC 397, RSC 940, Sear5 10352IMP GALLIENVS P AVG, radiate draped bust right / SALVS AVGG, Salus standing left feeding snake rising from altar and holding sceptre in left hand. Viminacium mint.
Maximum Diameter: 21.4 mm
Weight: 3.80 gTheEmpireNeverEnded02/01/14 at 12:51Antonivs Protti: Amazing observe for the type.
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Man. Acilius Glabrio ( 49 B.C.)AR Denarius
O: SALVTIS behind, laureate head of Salus right, wearing earring and necklace; hair in knot, falling down neck.
R: MN. ACILIVS III. VIR. VALETV, Valetudo (Salus) standing left, holding serpent, resting elbow on column.
Rome
18mm
3.9g
Sear 412; Crawford 442/1a; CRI 16; Sydenham 922Mat07/13/13 at 08:48Antonivs Protti: What a wonderful coin!
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SPAIN, Colonia Patricia (Corduba) Augustus Æ As. 19-2 B.C.; COLONIA PATRICIA. FAB-1989. SPAIN Colonia Patricia (Cordoba) Augustus AE as, 19 - 2 B.C.;
obverse PERM CAES AVG, Bare head of Augustus to left;
reverse COLONIA PATRICIA in wreath.
RPC I 129, S 16. FAB-1989. 13,0 gm., 23 mm.Antonivs Protti05/30/13 at 05:43Antonivs Protti: As the reverse clearly says "COLONIA PATRICIA" Cor...
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ROMAN EMPIRE - AugustusROMAN EMPIRE - Augustus (16 January 27 B.C. - 19 August 14 A.D.) Colonia Patricia, Hispania Baetica. Bronze quadrans,condition: VF, mint: Colonia Patricia (Cordova), weight: 2.225g, maximum diameter: 15.6mm, die axis: 225o, date struck: 20 - 2 B.C., probably 15 - 14 B.C.; obverse PER CAE AVG, bare head left; reverse COLO PATR, patera above aspergillum, jug, and lituus. References: Villaronga-Benages 3359, RPC I 131, SNG Lorichs 1393, SNG Cop -; Ex-FORVM
dpaul705/23/13 at 23:05Antonivs Protti: interesting!
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GAIUS CALIGULA. 37-41 AD. Æ As (11.21 gm). Struck 37/38 AD. C CAESAR AVG GERMANICVS PON M TR POT, GAIUS CALIGULA. 37-41 AD. Æ As (11.21 gm). Struck 37/38 AD. C CAESAR AVG GERMANICVS PON M TR POT, bare head left / VESTA, S C across field, Vesta seated left, holding patera and sceptre. RIC I 38; BMCRE 46; Cohen 27. Joe Geranio04/16/13 at 08:01Antonivs Protti: That's some legend! Stunning exemple
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(0218) ELAGABALUS218 - 222 AD
AE 23.51 mm, 9.48 g
O: AVΩN, T KM AVP A[NTΩ NINOC] Laureate draped bust right
R: Three-part (decastyle temple) temple of Astarte, with center arch, two tetrastyle wings, curved roof line from wings to top of pediment, Astarte standing facing in doorway, ... ΓΛΦ (Seleukid year 532) in ex;
Phoenicia, Tripolis; BMC 223, 120.laney04/16/13 at 07:58Antonivs Protti: nice
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(194-217) Julia Domna15mm, 2,3g
Julia Domna AE16 of Nicaea, Bithynia.
obv: IOVLIA CEBASTH, draped bust right
rev: NIKAIEWN, bull standing right.
Unlisted in Varbanov and SNG Copenhagen.B*Numis04/16/13 at 07:56Antonivs Protti: Great looking specimen and nice photo job.
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Syria, Seleucid Kings. Antiochos VII Euergetes (Sidetes). 138-129 BC. AR Tetradrachm. Tyre mint. Dated SE 177 (136/5 BC).Syria, Seleucid Kings. Antiochos VII Euergetes (Sidetes). 138-129 BC. AR Tetradrachm (30 mm, 14.20 g, 12 h). Tyre mint. Dated SE 177 (136/5 BC). Diademed and draped bust right / BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY, Eagle standing left on thunderbolt; palm frond in backgound; to left, A/PE above club surmounted by Tyre monogram; to right, A and monogram above HOP (date); monogram between legs. SC 2109.5a; Newell, Tyre 121; HGC 9, 1074.
Antiochos VII was called Sidetes because he was reared in the Pamphylian
seaport of side. He was the younger son of Demetrios I. his elder brother Demetrius II was captured by the Parthians. He undertook the reconquest of
Palestine, he besieged and captured Jerusalem. ( 134 BC).
Ultimately the ruling high priest John Hyrcanus accepted seleucid suzerainty,
though retaining autonomy with respect to internal affairs.
Antiochos temporarily recovered Babylonia from the Parthians, but while
wintering in Media he was caught off guard by a native revolt coordinated
with an attack by the Parthian army. He was vanquished and killed by
Phraates II. His body was returned to antioch in a silver casket, but his son Seleucus was kept as a hostage at the Parthian court.
These events marked the permanent loss of the eastern Seleucid empire. Antonivs Protti04/06/13 at 00:44Antonivs Protti: Thx Lloyd T, One of my favorite.
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Castulo, Spain, AE17, (2.76g) 1st century BC, Young male head right, Phoenician letter before. / Bull right, crescent above, two Phoenicial letters below. Burgos 897 Antonivs Protti04/06/13 at 00:43Antonivs Protti: Thx Mat. It came in a lot from Spain. It sparked a...
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NERO - Roman Emperor: 54-68 A.D. Bronze DupondiusCoin minted in Lugdunum between 64-67 AD
Obverse: IMP NERO CAESAR AVG TR P P P P Maximus
Laureate bust of emperor facing right.
Reverse: VICTORIA A-VGVSTI, SC on both sides of the field. Victory advancing left, holding wreath in her right hand and left palm.
WEIGHT: 13.1grm. DIAMETER: 29mm. _8250Antonivs Protti04/06/13 at 00:41Antonivs Protti: New seller. I´m loving his coins.
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Elagabalus, AE26 of Markianopolis. AVT K M AVΡHΛIOC ANTΩNEINOC, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
VΠ IOVΛ ANT CEΛEYKOY MAΡKIANOΠOΛITΩN (no ligate letters), Hygieia standing right, holding patera, feeding serpent in arms.
Varbanov 1553.
25mm.,8,12g,
Antonivs Protti04/06/13 at 00:40Antonivs Protti: Thx I love provincials.
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Macedon, Philippi, AE 19mm (Semis). VIC AVG, Nike standing left on globe, holding wreath and palm / COHOR PRAE PHIL, three military standards.
SNG ANS 677; SNG Copenhagen 305, BMC 23, SGI 32.
17mm.,4,04g.,
Antonivs Protti04/06/13 at 00:39Antonivs Protti: Thx. Tight flan, though.
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AMMONITE FOSSIL (CRETACEOUS) MADAGASCARL:6.8" W:5.5" Thickes:40.0mm
Weight 1070g(2.2lb)
Antonivs Protti04/06/13 at 00:38Antonivs Protti: Thx Randy, The largest I have seen was 63 lbs.
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(02) AUGUSTUS27 BC - 14 AD
struck 10 - 14 AD
AE Dupondius 26 mm, 12.91 g
O: IMP DIVI F P P, laureate heads of Agrippa wearing rostral crown left, and Augustus right, back-to-back;
R: COL NEM, crocodile right chained to palm tree, wreath with long ties above, two palms fronds below
Nemausus mint; cf. RIC I 159, RPC I 525, SRCV 1731laney03/21/13 at 01:52Antonivs Protti: Very nice as of Nimes. One of my favorites bonze c...
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MISTERY ROMAN COIN no more. AE ROMAN PROVINCIAL AS.EMPORITON/EMPORIAE, (Ampurias and Rosas), SPAIN.
9,3 grams, 27mm. Green patina. 27BC-14BC. Time of Augustus.
Obv: Female helmeted head right. Latin legend C.S.B.L.C.M.Q in front
Rev. Pegasus with very curved wings foward to right. Laurel above(? Sobre la grupa laurea)
Latin legend EMPORIT below.
Found in an unclean lot from France.
I was able to identify it thanks to *Alex and Pekka K and Benito. My eternal thanks!!!!
Re: MYSTERY COIN. Roman Republican? Pegasus/Female head.
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Spain, Emporiae. RPC I 237 - 257, depending
on obverse legend etc.
Pekka K
Re: MYSTERY COIN. Roman Republican? Pegasus/Female head.
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As Pekka writes the ID depends on factors I can not see in the coin. IMO an AS ,late 1rst century BC. Emporiton.
Here a catalogue of coins minted in Ampurias and Rosas (two important greek colonies in Spain until the Romans arrived and bashed them).
Unfortunately only in Spanish, but many PICS.
http://www.bubok.es/libros/195142/Catalogo-de-las-monedas-anteriores-a-Cristo-de-AMPURIAS-ROSAS-y-area-de-influencia
Andrew can find some nicely slashed coins IMO.
Uploaded to "Identification help" http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=87371.0 Antonivs Protti03/20/13 at 18:42Antonivs Protti: I believe I found a perfect match thanks to Pekka ...
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MISTERY ROMAN COIN no more. AE ROMAN PROVINCIAL AS.EMPORITON/EMPORIAE, (Ampurias and Rosas), SPAIN.
9,3 grams, 27mm. Green patina. 27BC-14BC. Time of Augustus.
Obv: Female helmeted head right. Latin legend C.S.B.L.C.M.Q in front
Rev. Pegasus with very curved wings foward to right. Laurel above(? Sobre la grupa laurea)
Latin legend EMPORIT below.
Found in an unclean lot from France.
I was able to identify it thanks to *Alex and Pekka K and Benito. My eternal thanks!!!!
Re: MYSTERY COIN. Roman Republican? Pegasus/Female head.
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Spain, Emporiae. RPC I 237 - 257, depending
on obverse legend etc.
Pekka K
Re: MYSTERY COIN. Roman Republican? Pegasus/Female head.
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As Pekka writes the ID depends on factors I can not see in the coin. IMO an AS ,late 1rst century BC. Emporiton.
Here a catalogue of coins minted in Ampurias and Rosas (two important greek colonies in Spain until the Romans arrived and bashed them).
Unfortunately only in Spanish, but many PICS.
http://www.bubok.es/libros/195142/Catalogo-de-las-monedas-anteriores-a-Cristo-de-AMPURIAS-ROSAS-y-area-de-influencia
Andrew can find some nicely slashed coins IMO.
Uploaded to "Identification help" http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=87371.0 Antonivs Protti03/20/13 at 03:53Antonivs Protti: Hi. I tried , but wasn´t able to post the picture....
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MosasaurMosasaurs (from Latin Mosa meaning the 'Meuse river', and Greek sauros meaning 'lizard') are large extinct marine lizards.
from Morocco--about 70 to 135 million years old
edit: about 2cm.Randygeki(h2)03/12/13 at 03:24Antonivs Protti: nice tooth.
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Titus as Caesar RIC II V1078Titus as Caesar. 69-79 A.D. Rome Mint. 79 A.D. to June 24. (3.38g, 19.1mm, 6h). Obv: T CAESAR IMP VESPASIANVS, laureate head r. Rev: TR POT VIII COS VII, Venus stg. r., leaning on column, with helmet and spear. RIC II V1078, BMC V255, RSC 332. Ex Harry N. Sneh Collection.
This is part of the last precious metal issue for Titus before Vespasian’s death. This type carried over into Titus’s reign following his father’s death (T15, T34).
While worn, this example is well centered and retains full legends. This is also a good example of a “big” head and “bull necked” portrait of Titus. In Rome, later issues frequently sported a “small” head on the obverse portrait- see my Titus 108 as an example.
Lucas H01/28/13 at 14:55Antonivs Protti: Very nice one. I got one similar.
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002a Augustus (63 B.C.-14 A.D.), RIC I 081, Rome, AE-As, PROVIDENT, Postumus, Under Tiberius, #2002a Augustus (63 B.C.-14 A.D.), RIC I 081, Rome, AE-As, PROVIDENT, Postumus, Under Tiberius, #2
avers:- DIVVS-AVGVSTVS-:-PATER, Radiate head left.
revers:- PROVIDENT, Altar large S-C on either side.
exe: S/C//PROVIDENT, diameter: 26-27,5mm, weight: 10,47g, axis:- 5h,
mint: Rome, date: 22-23 A.D., ref: RIC-I-81, C-228,
Q-002quadrans01/18/13 at 16:42Antonivs Protti: Great looking coin!
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Cistophorus, Pergamon26mm, 12.37g
obv: snake emerging from cista mystica with serpent emerging, ivy-wreath around
rev: two snakes around bow case, city monogram to left, PE and prytaneis monogram above, snake entwined thyrsos to right
SNG BN Paris 1750. Kleiner, LCP 81, 47
ex Roland Müller collection, ex Rutten & Wielandareich01/14/13 at 20:08Antonivs Protti: Nice specimen.
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Athens New Style tetradrachmPolycharm(os), Nikog(enes), and Aianti-, magistrates, struck 133/2
30mm, 16.82g, 11h
ob: head of Athena Parthenos right, wearing necklace, pendent earring, and triple-crested Attic helmet decorated with the protomes of four horses above the visor, a Pegasos in flight rightward above the raised earpiece, and a curvilinear ornament on the shell
rev: Owl standing right, head facing, on amphora; A-Ó¨E above Î OΛY-XAPM/NIKOΓ/AIAN/TI (magistrates’ names) in five lines across field; winged kerykeion to left, B on amphora, ΔI below; all within wreath
Thompson 377 var. (same obv. die; unlisted month/control letters combination)
ex Triton XIV, Lot: 216areich01/14/13 at 20:05Antonivs Protti: Lovely tettra! I wish I had one!
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Cilicia, Soloi, Athena/grapes, obolca. 410-375 BC
10mm, 0.65g
obv: helmeted head of Athena right
rev: grape bunch with tendril to left
(Göktürk 3 var. (tendril to right) and 4 var. (border of dots); SNG France 186-7; SNG Levante 47)
CNG eAuction 262, Lot 141areich01/14/13 at 20:02Antonivs Protti: Amazingg details on a beautifil coin.
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Thrace, Hadrianopolis, Herakles / Herakles, AE1717 mm, 3.20 gareich01/14/13 at 19:57Antonivs Protti: Exellent bronze.
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Tarsus (?), Cilicia Tarsus (?), Cilicia 4th c. BC , AR 3/4 obol .50g
Baal seated left holding a scepter in his left hand, grapes and corn ears in his right.
Forepart of a wolf right, crescent to upper left
SGCV II, 5660. SNG Levante 223Randygeki(h2)01/14/13 at 07:09Antonivs Protti: Nice details for such a tiny one!
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Titus AR Denarius, Venus. July 79 AD.Titus, 79-81 AD. Mint: Rome. Denomination: AR - Denarius.
IMP TITVS CAES VESPASIAN AVG P M, laureate head right / TR P VIIII IMP XIIII COS VII P P, Venus standing right leaning on cippus holding helmet and spear. RSC 268. sear5 #2507 RIC 34
3,3g - 19mm - Die axis 6 o´clock _12666Antonivs Protti01/03/13 at 18:26Antonivs Protti: Thanks for the tip. Corrected.
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Macedonian Kingdom, Alexander III, The Great, 336 -323 B.C. Lifetime Issue! Macedonian Kingdom, Alexander III, The Great, 336 -323 B.C. Lifetime Issue!
Silver drachm, Price 2553, (Muller 129); VF, flan defect on reverse, 4.297g, 16.4mm, Lydia, Sardes mint, c. 334 - 323 B.C.; obverse Herakles' head right, clad in Nemean lion scalp headdress tied at neck; reverse AΛEΞANΔPOY, Zeus enthroned left, eagle in right, scepter in left, EYE monogram left, rose under throne.
This portrait of Herakles has an amazing resemblance to my father when he was young!
Ex Forvm Ancient Coins
Steve E12/16/12 at 04:19Antonivs Protti: WOW! How nice.
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Mn. Aemilius Lepidus, 114 - 113 BCSilver denarius, SRCV I 168, (Crawford 291/1); Rome mint, weight 3.6g, max. diameter 19.07mm, 114 - 113 B.C.; Obv. laureate, diademed, and draped bust of Roma right, ROMA (MA ligate) before, XVI ligature behind; Rev. MN·AEMILIO (MN in monogram), horseman holding vertical spear (equestrian statue) right, on triple-arch containing L-E-P. Attractive toning.
Ex. Roma Numismatics
Ex. Andrew McCabe
Historical background Courtesy;
Forvm Ancient Coins,
The triple-arch probably represents the Aqua Marcia, an aqueduct begun by M. Aemilius Lepidus and M. Fulvius Nobilior as Censors in 179 B.C.
Andrew McCabe,
Northumberland Smyth 1856:
This type is of interest, since it commemorates the construction of the celebrated Aemilian bridge by Manius Aemilius Lepidus, to whom a statue was erected, and who replaced the wooden bridge of Ancus Martius over the Tiber by a stone one. The arched neck of the horse is classic
Steve E12/16/12 at 04:15Antonivs Protti: I love this reverse type. Congrats!
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Macedonian Kingdom, Phillip II, 359 - 336 B.C. Amphipolis mint?AE unit; SNG ANS 8-858. Weight 7.96.2 gr., max diameter 18.68 mm; Amphipolis mint? (per Dr. Thomas Gibson) Obv. Apollo facing right, wearing taenia; Rev. Φ Ι Λ Ι Π Π O Υ above; boy riding horse prancing right; pentagram below. Green patina, thick flan, fine style!Steve E12/16/12 at 04:14Antonivs Protti: great details on the horse.
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Persian Empire, Lydia, Anatolia, Darius II - Artaxerxes II, c. 420 - 375 B.C.Silver siglos, (Carradice Type IV (middle) B; plate XIII, 35); weight 5.5g, max. diameter 14.14 mm, Sardeis mint, c. 420 - 350 B.C.; obverse kneeling-running figure of the Great King right, dagger in right, bow in left, bearded, crowned, waist indicated; reverse oblong incuse punch; lion head left within incuse, crescent moon banker's mark.
Steve E12/16/12 at 04:12Antonivs Protti: nice siglos.
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TITUS CAESAR AR silver denarius. Rome, 72-73 AD. NEP RED, Neptune standing, foot on globe.TITUS, as Caesar, AR silver denarius. Rome mint, 72-73 AD. T CAES IMP VESP PON TR POT, laureate head right. Reverse - NEP RED, Neptune standing right, foot on globe, holding acrostolium & scepter. RSC 121, RIC 366. 17mm, 3.0g. Very scarce. _8400 sold
This reverse, alluding to 'Neptune the Returner', gives thanks for the safe return of Titus to Rome, from Antioch, by sea in 71 AD, on what must have been a hazardous voyage. The same type was also issued at Antioch, showing Titus with a draped bust. Antonivs Protti12/13/12 at 02:28Antonivs Protti: Cool Mat, It' a bit worn out, but I love the t...
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Tirus AR DenariusTitus: Caesar 69-79 AD, Augustus 79-81 AD.
Titus Denarius. IMP TITVS CAES VESPASIAN AVG P M, laureate head right / TR P VIIII IMP XIIII COS VII P P, Capricorn left, below, a globe. Cohen 280. RIC 5 _12208 Antonivs Protti12/13/12 at 02:27Antonivs Protti: I definitelly don't plan on cleaning it. I'...
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Trajan Ar Denarius. Trajan AR Denarius. 112-114 AD. IMP TRAIANO AVG GER DAC P M TR P COS VI P P, laureate draped bust right / S P Q R OPTIMO PRINCIPI, Felicitas standing, holding caduceus & cornucopia.
RIC 271. RSC 404. _8359 _sold :o)Antonivs Protti12/12/12 at 01:52Antonivs Protti: Thanks David.
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THE SELEUKID KINGDOM: DEMETRIOS I SOTER. King of Syria c. 162-150 BC. Silver Tetradrachm, Antioch mint, dated SE 159 = 154/3 BC.Demetrios I Soter AR Tetradrachm. Antioch mint, dated SE 159 = 154/3 BC. Diademed head right within wreath / Tyche seated left, holding sceptre & cornucopiae; winged Tritoness supporting throne, two monograms to outer left, date in ex.
cf. Houghton/Lorber 1641 (Antioch mint). Nicely toned. Reverse in fine Hellenistic style, nearly EF.
31mm, 16.52 gm
SNGIs 1270v _126201
ex Tom CederlindAntonivs Protti12/10/12 at 00:29Antonivs Protti: I like the wow effect. lol.
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Trajan Ar Denarius. Trajan AR Denarius. 112-114 AD. IMP TRAIANO AVG GER DAC P M TR P COS VI P P, laureate draped bust right / S P Q R OPTIMO PRINCIPI, Felicitas standing, holding caduceus & cornucopia.
RIC 271. RSC 404. _8359 _sold :o)Antonivs Protti12/10/12 at 00:28Antonivs Protti: Thanks Randy.
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Ptolemy II Philadelphos 285 - 246 BC King of Egypt AE 22 12.7 gram coin
Obverse: Bust of Hercules Right
Reverse: Eagle Left _2500 soldAntonivs Protti09/22/12 at 15:46Antonivs Protti: Thank you Randy, I'm trying to get more of the...
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Seleucid Dynasty - King Philip I Philadelphos (95 - 83 B.C.) - Silver Tetradrachm #02---
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Seleucid Empire
Seleucid King Philip Philadelphos (95 - 83 B.C.)
Silver Tetradrachm, 93 - 83 BC
obv: Diademed head of Philip Philadelphos facing right.
rev: (Titles in Greek) - Zeus seated facing left, holding sceptre and Nike, who is placing a laureate crown upon his head.
Monograms below, Greek titles on either side.
Weight: 15.0 Grams
Size: 27 mm
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--------------------------------rexesq09/14/12 at 11:09Antonivs Protti: nice tetra
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Phrygia, Apameia AR Cistophoric Tetradrachm. ca 88-67 BC. 12.59g.PHRYGIA, Apameia. Circa 88-67 BC. AR Tetradrachm, 12.59g. Cistophoric type. Attalos and Timo-, magistrates.
Cista mystica with serpent; all within ivy-wreath / Two serpents entwined around bow and bowcase; ATTA/ΛΟY/TIMΩ in three lines above, aulos (double flute) to right.
Kleiner, Late Issue XVII; SNG Copenhagen 156. _19000Antonivs Protti09/07/12 at 07:22Antonivs Protti: That is very cool! Thank you. Perfect match. I app...
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Phrygia, Apameia AR Cistophoric Tetradrachm. ca 88-67 BC. 12.59g.PHRYGIA, Apameia. Circa 88-67 BC. AR Tetradrachm, 12.59g. Cistophoric type. Attalos and Timo-, magistrates.
Cista mystica with serpent; all within ivy-wreath / Two serpents entwined around bow and bowcase; ATTA/ΛΟY/TIMΩ in three lines above, aulos (double flute) to right.
Kleiner, Late Issue XVII; SNG Copenhagen 156. _19000Antonivs Protti09/07/12 at 05:25Antonivs Protti: Thank you Rover, The closest reference on Wildwind...
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Alexander III, The Great, King of Macedon 336-323 BC. Silver TetradrachmPrice 3725a
struck betweem 317-311 DC. BABYLON mint,
Obverse: Head of Hercules right wearing lion skin headdress knotted at the base of neck
Reverse: ALEXANDROU behind Zeus enthroned left holding eagle & sceptre, XA monogram before on left field, monogram MYP in wreath beneath throne
17.1 gram _20800 SoldAntonivs Protti09/03/12 at 04:31Antonivs Protti: Thank you Variathus.
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Lysimachos, King of Thrace 323 - 281 BC. AR tetradrachm. 16.4 grams
REF: Thompson 30; Sear #6814
Obverse: Diademed head of deified Alexander III with horn of Amon right
Reverse: BASILEWS right, LUSIMACOU left, Athena Nikephoros sitting left holding Nike left crowning royal name in extended right hand, MHF monogram behind Nike, left arm resting on groundewd shield, transverse spear in background, monogram to left _35800
Antonivs Protti09/03/12 at 01:22Antonivs Protti: Thanks Viriathis. Thanks Lloyd T, It's a grat ...
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Q Titius Denarius. 90 BC.Obv. Head of young Bacchus right
Rev. Pegasus springing right from a tablet on which is inscribed Q TITI.
Cr341/2, Syd 692.
18mm.,3,60g _4943
Roman Republic Q. Titius moneyer
Silver Denarius 20mm (3.95 grams) Rome mint: 90 B.C.
Reference: Titia 2; B.M.C. 2225; Syd. 692; Craw. 341/2
Head of young Bacchus right, wearing ivy-wreath.
Q . TITI on tablet from which springs Pegasus right. sold :o(Antonivs Protti08/17/12 at 19:36Antonivs Protti: thx, I love pegasus
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Massive 30mm Uncleaned Maurice Tiberius - EF++NICE HUGE BYZANTINE FOLLIS 30mm
Maurice Tiberius AE Follis (40 Nummi). Antioch Mint, 29mm. PTINOC ~ ~ TIANTAPPIV; Bust of Maurice Tiberius facing, wearing crown with trefoil ornament, consular robes; in right hand, mappa; in left hand, eagle-tipped sceptre. Large M; cross above. II RIGHT
GREAT DETAIL 1600
Antonivs Protti08/17/12 at 19:35Antonivs Protti: Thax Randy, One of my few favorite byzantine.
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Celtic, Danube Region. c2nd-1st Century BC. AR Drachm imitating Philip III of Macedon. Obv, Head of Herakles right, in lion-skin
rev. Zeus seated left, holding eagle & scepter
Gцbl 591/2.
18mm, 2,80g., VF _6179
Antonivs Protti08/17/12 at 19:33Antonivs Protti: Thanks Randy, surprisingly good silver.
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Roman Republican Coinage, Denarius anonymous with symbol STAR (eight rays)Roman Republican Coinage
Denarius anonymous with symbol STAR (eight rays)
Bab. 20
Crawford 113/1
Year: 206 / 195 b. C.
Weight: 3,63 grms.
_14000Antonivs Protti05/16/12 at 16:15Antonivs Protti: Thanks Randy. I like the horses. I'm satarting...
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ELAGABALUS AR ANTONINIANUSElagabalus AR Antoninianus Rome Mint 218-222 AD
Obverse: IMP ANTONINVS AVG Bust of Elagabalus, radiate, draped, cuirassed, right
Reverse: LAETITIA PVBL Laetitia, draped, standing left, holding wreath in extended right hand and rudder set on globe in left hand Size: 21 mm
Weight: 5.34g
Ref: RCV 7490, RIC 94f
Date: C, 219 AD. _9000Antonivs Protti05/16/12 at 16:13Antonivs Protti: It's my first Elagaballus antininianus.
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Trebonianus Gallus AR Antoninianus•Date: C, 251-252 AD
•Rev: LIBERTAS AVGG
•Size: 23 mm
•Weight: 2.73g
•Ref: RCV 9634
_5000 SOLD
Antonivs Protti05/16/12 at 16:12Antonivs Protti: Thanks Randy.
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Titus AR Denarius, Elefant.Titus AR Denarius, Date: 79-81 AD. Size: approx 18mm/3.1g Mint: Rome
Obverse: IMP TITVS CAES VESPASIAN AVG PM - Laureate head right.
Reverse: TR P IX IMP XV COS VIII P P - Elephant left.
_13250 _sold :o(Antonivs Protti05/16/12 at 16:12Antonivs Protti: Thanks Jay. You got a nice one. I like animals on ...
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Parthian Empire, Vologases III, 105 - 147 A.D. Silver drachmObverse bust right with long pointed beard, diadem with loop at top and three ends, earring and wire necklet. Reverse archer seated right holding bow, seat formed in the shape of Π, monogram below bow, blundered Greek legend forming a square around.
_9200 soldAntonivs Protti05/03/12 at 23:45Antonivs Protti: I never sell the good ones. I usually sell some po...
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170 CommodusCommodus 177-192 AD
Denarius 186-189 AD ROME
M COMM ANT P FEL AVG BRIT, laureate head right
ROMAE AE TERNAE, Roma seated left holding Victory and scepter,
C V P P in ex.
2.30g UPR
RIC 195, RSC 647, BMC 239, Cohen 64, sear5 #5690 ex Doug S.
New Photo
ex DSRandygeki(h2)05/01/12 at 06:42Antonivs Protti: Guys, Take in consideration that we are all short ...
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03 Constantius IIConstantius II, 22 May 337 - 3 November 361 A.D.
Bronze AE 2, desert patina, mint: Antioch, obverse D N CONSTAN-TIVS P F AVG, pearl-diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right; reverse FEL TEMP RE-PARATIO, Gamma in left, soldier spearing Horseman,hair in braids, bearded, reaching back towards soldier, ANBI in ex Antioch 132
ex DSRandygeki(h2)05/01/12 at 06:30Antonivs Protti: Excellent presentation, Randy. Very cool patina.
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Elagabalus Elagabalus , AE19 Antioch. Radiate bust right/ large S.C, Delta Epsilon above, eagle below, all in wreath. BMC 430? McAlee 788Randygeki(h2)05/01/12 at 06:26Antonivs Protti: oh, I love this type of coins. I got a bunch of th...
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Syria, Seleucid Kings. Antiochos VII Euergetes (Sidetes). 138-129 BC. AR Tetradrachm. Tyre mint. Dated SE 177 (136/5 BC).Syria, Seleucid Kings. Antiochos VII Euergetes (Sidetes). 138-129 BC. AR Tetradrachm (30 mm, 14.20 g, 12 h). Tyre mint. Dated SE 177 (136/5 BC). Diademed and draped bust right / BAΣIΛEΩΣ ANTIOXOY, Eagle standing left on thunderbolt; palm frond in backgound; to left, A/PE above club surmounted by Tyre monogram; to right, A and monogram above HOP (date); monogram between legs. SC 2109.5a; Newell, Tyre 121; HGC 9, 1074.
Antiochos VII was called Sidetes because he was reared in the Pamphylian
seaport of side. He was the younger son of Demetrios I. his elder brother Demetrius II was captured by the Parthians. He undertook the reconquest of
Palestine, he besieged and captured Jerusalem. ( 134 BC).
Ultimately the ruling high priest John Hyrcanus accepted seleucid suzerainty,
though retaining autonomy with respect to internal affairs.
Antiochos temporarily recovered Babylonia from the Parthians, but while
wintering in Media he was caught off guard by a native revolt coordinated
with an attack by the Parthian army. He was vanquished and killed by
Phraates II. His body was returned to antioch in a silver casket, but his son Seleucus was kept as a hostage at the Parthian court.
These events marked the permanent loss of the eastern Seleucid empire. Antonivs Protti05/01/12 at 06:14Antonivs Protti: Randy, I couldn't avoid falling in love for th...
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Ptolemy IV Philopater AE41 64.05g 221-204 BC. Struck 212 BCPtolemaic Kings of Egypt, Ptolemy IV Philopater AE41 64.05g 221-204 BC. Struck 212 BC.
O: Head Zeus with Horn of Ammon r, centering dimple evident.
R: Eagle with closed wings stg. l., Filleted Cornucopia in l. field, BASILEWS PTOLEMAIOU around, LI symbol between legs.
Svoronos 1126, SNG Cop 200v(DI between legs).
32500 sold
Ptolemy IV Philopater reigned 221–205 BCE, son of Ptolemy III and Berenice II of Egypt was the fourth Pharaoh of Ptolemaic Egypt. Under the reign of Ptolemy IV, the decline of the Ptolemaic kingdom began.
His reign was inaugurated by the murder of his mother, and he was always under the dominion of favourites, male and female, who indulged his vices and conducted the government as they pleased. Self-interest led his ministers to make serious preparations to meet the attacks of Antiochus III the Great on Coele-Syria including Judea, and the great Egyptian victory of Raphia (217), where Ptolemy himself was present, secured the northern borders of the kingdom for the remainder of his reign.
The arming of Egyptians in this campaign had a disturbing effect upon the native population of Egypt, leading to the secession of Upper Egypt under pharaohs Harmachis (also known as Hugronaphor) and Ankmachis (also known as Chaonnophris), thus creating a kingdom that occupied much of the country and lasted nearly twenty years.
Philopator was devoted to orgiastic forms of religion and literary dilettantism. He built a temple to Homer and composed a tragedy, to which his favourite Agathocles added a commentary. He married (about 220 BC) his sister Arsinoë III, but continued to be ruled by his mistress Agathoclea, sister of Agathocles. In late c. 210 BC, Agathoclea may have given birth to a son from her affair with Ptolemy IV, who may had died shortly after his birth.
Ptolemy is said to have built a giant ship known as the tessarakonteres ("forty"), a huge type of galley. The forty of its name may refer to its number of banks of oars. The only recorded instance of this type of vessel, in fact, is this showpiece galley built for Ptolemy IV, described by Callixenus of Rhodes, writing in the 3rd century BCE, and by Athenaeus in the 2nd century AD. Plutarch also mentions that Ptolemy Philopater owned this immense vessel in his Life of Demetrios. The current theory is that Ptolemy's ship was an oversize catamaran galley, measuring 128 m 420 ft.
Ptolemy IV is a major protagonist of the apocryphal 3 Maccabees, which describes purported events following the Battle of Raphia, in both Jerusalem and Alexandria.
Antonivs Protti05/01/12 at 06:10Antonivs Protti: This is an old picture of a coin I already have fo...
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Parthian Empire, Vologases III, 105 - 147 A.D. Silver drachmObverse bust right with long pointed beard, diadem with loop at top and three ends, earring and wire necklet. Reverse archer seated right holding bow, seat formed in the shape of Π, monogram below bow, blundered Greek legend forming a square around.
_9200 soldAntonivs Protti05/01/12 at 06:08Antonivs Protti: Thanks Randy. I'm starting a collection of the...
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Maximinus I AE Dupondius,Maximinus I AE Dupondius. MAXIMINVS PIVS AVG GERM, radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right / SALVS AVGVSTI S-C, Salus seated left, feeding out of patera a snake rising from altar. RIC 86, Cohen 94, BMC 178 sold :o(
Antonivs Protti04/18/12 at 14:22Antonivs Protti: Thx, both of you. When I saw the crown I thought i...
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D.Junius Silanus AR Denarius. 91 BC.D Junius Silanus AR Denarius. 91 BC. 3,85 grs.
Helmeted head of Roma right, control mark F behind / Victory in biga right, holding reins in both hands, number XVII above, D SILANVS L F below, ROMA in ex. Syd 646. Cr337/3.
_6900
Antonivs Protti04/17/12 at 11:36Antonivs Protti: Thx, Randy. Did you sell yours? I usually don'...
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AR denier de Gordian III Gordian III Denarius. IMP GORDIANVS PIVS FEL AVG, laureate, draped bust right / PM TRP III COS PP, Gordian riding left on horseback. RSC 234. RIC 81 19mm., 2,68g _5995 SOLD
Antonivs Protti04/17/12 at 11:34Antonivs Protti: Adventus rev. are not that easy to get.
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Constantinus I., 306-337 n. ChrAE-Bronze
327-329 n. Chr.
Antiochia
Vs.:Drapierte Panzerbüste r. mit Rosettendiadem.
Rs.:Lagertor mit zwei turmartigen Aufbauten, darüber Stern.
RIC 81G
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3,03 gr - 19 mm _1179 soldAntonivs Protti04/17/12 at 11:33Antonivs Protti: Thax Randy. I find it very attractive, too. I'...
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FAUSTA AE3 - SPES REIPVBLICAE - BSIS - Siscia04/12/12 at 10:38Antonivs Protti: nice bust!
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Constantine I AE3 Barbarian imitation∅ 17.7 mm; 2.97 gr
found in Hungary04/12/12 at 10:32Antonivs Protti: whatta wonderful collection of barbaric immitation...
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German States. Prussia. Friedrich II 1740 - 1786. Copper Gute (3-PFEN) 1760-A.German States. Prussia. Friedrich II 1740 - 1786. Copper Gute (3-PFEN) 1760-A. Crowned script FR monogram / *3* PFEN: SCHEIDE MUNZ. 1760, mint-mark A divides date.
KM 404/12/12 at 10:27Antonivs Protti: Very nice looking coin.
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0 - a - Vespasian Silver Tetradrachm - 14.8 Grams - Antioch, Syria.Ancient Roman Empire
Antioch, Syria.
Silver Tetradrachm of Emperor Vespasian ( 69 - 79 AD )
(titles in Greek)
obv: Laureate bust of the Emperor facing right.
rev: Eagle, holding a laureate wreath in his beak, standing on club of Hercules facing left, palm branch to left in field.
Size: 28 - 29 mm
Weight: 14.8 Grams.
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~rexesq04/12/12 at 07:32Antonivs Protti: Congrats on this nice addition. A Vespasian tetra!...
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VI - Gallienus Antoninianus - Goat facing rigjt - IOVI CONS AUG - 6th Officina in exergue.~
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Ancient Roman Empire
Emperor Gallienus ( 253 - 268 AD ) AR/BI Antoninianus.
Struck 267 - 268 AD. 6th Officinae.
"Jupiter, Conserver of the Emperor"
obv: GALLIENUS AUG - Radiate bust right, cuirassed. Seen from the Front.
rev: IOVI CONS AUG - Goat walking right.
Greek Numeral '6' below, in exergue.
Weight: 4.2 Grams
Size: 24 mm - 25 mm
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~rexesq04/12/12 at 07:30Antonivs Protti: Very attractive coin. I like Gallienus' animal...
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Elagabalus AR Antoninianus - VICTOR ANTONINI AVG - #02 - 5.10 GramsRoman Empire
Emperor Varius 'Elagabalus' Antoninus (218 - 222 AD)
Silver Antoninianus, Rome Mint.
obv: IMP CAES ANTONINUS AUG - Radiate bust right, draped. Seen from behind.
rev: VICTOR . ANTONINI . AUG - Victory advancing right holding palm branch and wreath.
Weight: 5.10 Grams.rexesq04/12/12 at 07:24Antonivs Protti: Nice antoninianus of Elagabalus. Great bust and ex...
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Diadumenian as Caesar, Coin Struck AD 218.
Son of Emperor Macrinus (8 April 217 AD – June 218 AD)
Silver Tetradrachm of Heirapolis.
(Titles in Greek)
obv: Radiate bust of Diadumenian facing right. Draped and Cuirassed, Seen from Behind.
rev: Eagle standing facing, wings spread, holding wreath in beak. Lion walking right beneath.
Weight: 11.3 Grams
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Reference: Prieur 947
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~rexesq04/12/12 at 07:22Antonivs Protti: Congrats on this rare and special specimen of DIAD...
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00. - Gordian III AR Tetradrachm #4.Ancient Roman Empire
Emperor Gordian III ( 238 - 244 AD )
Silver Tetradrachm of Antioch, Syria.
(Titles in Greek)
obv: - Laureate bust of Emperor Gordian III facing right, draped and Cuirassed. Seen from behind.
rev: - Eagle standing facing, wings spread holding laurel wreath in beak. Head and tail left.
'S C' below, in exergue.
Size: 30 mm
Weight: 13.4 Grams
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----------------rexesq04/12/12 at 07:20Antonivs Protti: Wow. very nice tetradrachm indeed. In great condit...
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antoninien de Trajan Decius 22mm.,2,96g, Superbe
Trajan Decius AR Antoninianus. IMP TRAIANVS DECIVS AVG, radiate, draped & cuirassed bust right / ADVENTVS AVG, emperor on horseback left with raised hand & sceptre. RIC 1b, Cohen 6. RIC 1b
sear5 #9365
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Antonivs Protti04/12/12 at 07:09Antonivs Protti: It's true. The severans have great horses and ...
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AR Antoninianus of Valerian I, 253-260 AD.Valerian I AR Antoninianus. IMP C P LIC VALERIANVS PF AVG, radiate, draped bust right / VICTORIA AVGG, Victory standing left resting on shield and holding palm. 2.7 gr.
RIC 128, Cohen 224. RIC 128CvAntonivs Protti04/12/12 at 07:08Antonivs Protti: Yeap. It must be beacause they are usually very wo...
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