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RPC5359Tetradrachm, Eleutheria, no simpulum. This coin was included in a as yet unpublished study. It shows nicely the minting method used in Egypt at the time. The silver content of the metal used is low and the surface has been treated with acid to remove the copper and then restruck to solidify the silver. The same method was in use in Rome during the last month of Otho´s reign, but as the silver content was much higher, the "purified" surface cannot be observed as easily. [5.67 gr], die-axis 12.4 commentsjmuona02/28/22 at 00:16Curtis JJ: Fascinating! Unlike your cut denarii, the metal va...
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Tarraco_RIC213.33 gr., max 19 mm, die-axis 6.1 commentsjmuona05/08/15 at 02:17Matt Inglima: Outstanding! A true rare gem, congratulations!
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Second_RIC 2Condition is quite bad, but I obtained this just beacuse of the extreme rarity. It was used in our silver content analysis and found a new home later on. It is fun to compare the dies!1 commentsjmuona07/05/14 at 19:08akeady: Mine now Very Happy
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Early_RIC65Early rare issue. RICII.i plate coin.1 commentsjmuona04/19/14 at 14:39neander: A very pleasant coin Exclamation
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Third_RIC 20varThis is one of my dearest coins because of its pedigree. It is originally from the poet Apostolo Zeno´s collection (1668-1750). Zeno was one of the main names behind the creation of modern opera librettos. His coin collection ended up in the St. Florian Augustinian monastery close to Linz in Austria. The collection was sold in the 50s to pay for necessary repairs and it was auctioned by Dorotheum. Every time I look at this coin I get shivers thinking it lay in the cabinet while the great composer, Anton Bruckner as the organist of the monastery, played the magnificent instrument there.
2.98 gr, die-axis 6.
And now, for a while, it is in my posession.
2 commentsjmuona04/24/13 at 14:02Sosius: Beautiful history. I love it when people get pros...
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Tarraco_RIC71 commentsjmuona03/27/13 at 19:11Iotapianus: Very nice, Jyrki! This is the fourth coin of this ...
RPC5359_3B.jpg
RPC5359Tetradrachm, Eleutheria, no simpulum. This coin was included in a as yet unpublished study. It shows nicely the minting method used in Egypt at the time. The silver content of the metal used is low and the surface has been treated with acid to remove the copper and then restruck to solidify the silver. The same method was in use in Rome during the last month of Otho´s reign, but as the silver content was much higher, the "purified" surface cannot be observed as easily. [5.67 gr], die-axis 12.4 commentsjmuona03/20/13 at 00:074to2CentBC: very interesting
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First_RIC 8Another type of a draped bust die. The obverse die is known from an aureus as well.1 commentsjmuona03/14/13 at 02:19SPQR Matt: Wonderful portrait!
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Third_RIC 21The flan is far from perfect, but both strikes are great and there is very little wear. The nicest Jupiter Otho I know of - some have nice smooth flans, but are inferior in other respects. 3.35 gr, die-axis 6.6 commentsjmuona03/12/13 at 17:26carthago: What a portrait!!
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Fake RIC 22aA detail of the reverse of a genuine RIC 22 Otho on horsback denarius (left) and a modern cast made from a coin minted with same dies (right). Note the sharp detail in recessed parts of the real coin - pellets behind the horse's neck etc - all absent or mushy in the cast coin, althoug it appears to be less "worn". Also note that the forger has re-cut the emperor´s leg, the original having been in a different angle clearly still visible in the more worn authentic coin.
An extra bonus: both the original and the host of the fake (copied to the cast) show a shadow-line of Otho's forehead below the front leg as they were minted with a clashed die.
3 commentsjmuona03/12/13 at 13:45Sosius: I'm going to take a close look at my Otho Dena...
RPC5359_3B.jpg
RPC5359Tetradrachm, Eleutheria, no simpulum. This coin was included in a as yet unpublished study. It shows nicely the minting method used in Egypt at the time. The silver content of the metal used is low and the surface has been treated with acid to remove the copper and then restruck to solidify the silver. The same method was in use in Rome during the last month of Otho´s reign, but as the silver content was much higher, the "purified" surface cannot be observed as easily. [5.67 gr], die-axis 12.4 commentsjmuona03/12/13 at 13:41Sosius: That's fascinating! Glad you showed us this, ...
RPC5359_3B.jpg
RPC5359Tetradrachm, Eleutheria, no simpulum. This coin was included in a as yet unpublished study. It shows nicely the minting method used in Egypt at the time. The silver content of the metal used is low and the surface has been treated with acid to remove the copper and then restruck to solidify the silver. The same method was in use in Rome during the last month of Otho´s reign, but as the silver content was much higher, the "purified" surface cannot be observed as easily. [5.67 gr], die-axis 12.4 commentsjmuona11/07/12 at 19:15Kained but Able: Wow, really interesting!
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Fake RIC 22aA detail of the reverse of a genuine RIC 22 Otho on horsback denarius (left) and a modern cast made from a coin minted with same dies (right). Note the sharp detail in recessed parts of the real coin - pellets behind the horse's neck etc - all absent or mushy in the cast coin, althoug it appears to be less "worn". Also note that the forger has re-cut the emperor´s leg, the original having been in a different angle clearly still visible in the more worn authentic coin.
An extra bonus: both the original and the host of the fake (copied to the cast) show a shadow-line of Otho's forehead below the front leg as they were minted with a clashed die.
3 commentsjmuona10/30/12 at 18:27jmuona: Yes, indeed, so you should!
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Third_RIC 19This splendid portrait coin of Otho I obtained from a Helios auction (ex-Lynn). I decided to part with it and the coin found a new keeper in the NYINC. I am sure she/he will be happy with it!3 commentsjmuona10/30/12 at 16:21kc: Oh no...why you haven't kept it? Crying or Very sad
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Pure_RIC1441 commentsjmuona10/30/12 at 16:03Legatus: I'm jealous
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Early_RIC19Listed in RIC ii.i.1 commentsjmuona10/30/12 at 16:03Legatus: Very nice coin
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Pure_RIC191CE 84, restored pure silver period. RIC II.i plate coin.1 commentsjmuona10/30/12 at 14:32FlaviusDomitianus: One of the best Minerva I've ever seen!
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Return_RIC564RIC ii.i plate coin.1 commentsjmuona10/30/12 at 14:31FlaviusDomitianus: Great example|
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Return_RIC555RIC ii.i plate coin.1 commentsjmuona10/30/12 at 12:53socalcoins: A familiar coin! Very Happy
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Fake RIC 22aA detail of the reverse of a genuine RIC 22 Otho on horsback denarius (left) and a modern cast made from a coin minted with same dies (right). Note the sharp detail in recessed parts of the real coin - pellets behind the horse's neck etc - all absent or mushy in the cast coin, althoug it appears to be less "worn". Also note that the forger has re-cut the emperor´s leg, the original having been in a different angle clearly still visible in the more worn authentic coin.
An extra bonus: both the original and the host of the fake (copied to the cast) show a shadow-line of Otho's forehead below the front leg as they were minted with a clashed die.
3 commentsjmuona10/29/12 at 16:43Jason T: Thanks for the info. I only buy coins from reputed...
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Pure_RIC328Very rare and impressive.5 commentsjmuona10/29/12 at 11:214to2CentBC: beautiful reverse. very greek in style and executi...
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Early_RIC33 commentsjmuona10/27/12 at 21:57David Atherton: The tri-angular type much rarer than the seim-circ...
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Early_RIC33 commentsjmuona10/27/12 at 19:46socalcoins: VERY nice!!!
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Early_RIC33 commentsjmuona10/27/12 at 19:31Jay GT4: Great reverse!
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Return_RIC345CE 85, second issue after return to a lower silver standard, TRP V.3 commentsjmuona10/26/12 at 13:41FlaviusDomitianus: I miss that one. Lovely toning.
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Return_RIC336CE 85, return to a lower silver standard, still trp IIII, dies with or without aegis1 commentsjmuona10/26/12 at 13:40FlaviusDomitianus: I have this one, but yours is much better.
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Pure_RIC164Restored pure silver period, CE 83.1 commentsjmuona10/26/12 at 13:38FlaviusDomitianus: Simply: wow!
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Return_RIC342CE 85, second issue after return to a lower silver standard, TRP V. RIC II.i plate coin.1 commentsjmuona10/26/12 at 13:36FlaviusDomitianus: Magnificent!
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Return_RIC339CE 85, return to a lower silver standard, still TRP IIII, dies with or without aegis.2 commentsjmuona10/26/12 at 13:35FlaviusDomitianus: Beautiful, I love the aegis.
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Return_RIC345CE 85, second issue after return to a lower silver standard, TRP V.3 commentsjmuona10/26/12 at 13:32socalcoins: WOW!
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Return_RIC339CE 85, return to a lower silver standard, still TRP IIII, dies with or without aegis.2 commentsjmuona10/26/12 at 11:55SPQR Coins: Such an elegant portrait of the last Flavian emper...
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Return_RIC345CE 85, second issue after return to a lower silver standard, TRP V.3 commentsjmuona10/26/12 at 11:52SPQR Coins: Beautiful toning!
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Return_RIC392CE 85, lower silver standard issue, TRP V, the first issue with reverse legend CENS PPP. This coin listed in RIC II.i.1 commentsjmuona10/26/12 at 11:51SPQR Coins: Excellent portrait!
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Return_RIC334CE 85, return to a lower silver standard, still TRP IIII, dies with or without aegis. RIC II.i plate coin.1 commentsjmuona10/26/12 at 11:48SPQR Coins: Simply outstanding!
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Pure_RIC328Very rare and impressive.5 commentsjmuona10/25/12 at 20:09FlaviusDomitianus: Great style and wonderful condition.
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Pure_RIC326What can I say...4 commentsjmuona10/25/12 at 18:54Jay GT4: words are not necessary! Amazing!
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Pure_RIC328Very rare and impressive.5 commentsjmuona10/25/12 at 17:30David Atherton: Stunning condition!
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Rome_RIC1704 commentsjmuona10/25/12 at 15:58jmuona: Yes, indeed, by Matthew Ponting´s research group. ...
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Pure_RIC326What can I say...4 commentsjmuona10/25/12 at 15:31David Atherton: Superb example!
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Rome_RIC1613.23 gr., max 19 mm, die-axis 6.1 commentsjmuona10/25/12 at 14:32Legatus: wonderful portrait
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Pure_RIC328Very rare and impressive.5 commentsjmuona10/25/12 at 14:31Legatus: great detail
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Pure_RIC326What can I say...4 commentsjmuona10/25/12 at 14:30Legatus: Very nice coin
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Pure_RIC326What can I say...4 commentsjmuona10/25/12 at 13:32socalcoins: Another amazing early issue! Wow!!!
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Pure_RIC328Very rare and impressive.5 commentsjmuona10/25/12 at 13:28socalcoins: Amazing early issue!
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Lugdunum_RIC1213,17 gr., max 18 mm, die-axis 4. Although anonymous, this is certainly a pro-Vitellian type. The mint is an educated guess. The RIC number refers to "Civil War" coins, not Vitellius.1 commentsjmuona10/23/12 at 23:46David Atherton: Fantastic rarity!
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Tarraco_RIC363,48 gr., max 19 mm, die-axis 7.1 commentsjmuona10/23/12 at 23:34David Atherton: Fantastic coin.
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Lugdunum_RIC563,41 gr., max 18 mm, die-axis 7.3 commentsjmuona10/23/12 at 11:54David Atherton: Superb coin!
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RIC 8 Ancient counterfeitA plated Ancient counterfeit. The portrait is atypical and the obverse legend is strangely placed: the word "CAESAR" ends more to the left with respect to the portrait than in any known official die (n = 520), even though there clearly is the letter "M" as well. The drapery falling from the hand holding the caducaeus on the reverse is simplified and incorrectly executed as well.
[2.34 gr], max 17 mm, die-axis 7.
2 commentsjmuona10/23/12 at 06:07areich: Very attractive coin.
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Rome_RIC1704 commentsjmuona10/23/12 at 06:06areich: It was cut to analyze it, not in antiquity.
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RIC 8 Ancient counterfeitA plated Ancient counterfeit. The portrait is atypical and the obverse legend is strangely placed: the word "CAESAR" ends more to the left with respect to the portrait than in any known official die (n = 520), even though there clearly is the letter "M" as well. The drapery falling from the hand holding the caducaeus on the reverse is simplified and incorrectly executed as well.
[2.34 gr], max 17 mm, die-axis 7.
2 commentsjmuona10/22/12 at 21:21SPQR Coins: I wonder if they knew it was plated before they dr...
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Rome_RIC1704 commentsjmuona10/22/12 at 21:16SPQR Coins: Looks like somebody needed some change. Very cool...
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Lugdunum_RIC563,41 gr., max 18 mm, die-axis 7.3 commentsjmuona10/22/12 at 21:03SPQR Coins: Outstanding!
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Lugdunum_RIC563,41 gr., max 18 mm, die-axis 7.3 commentsjmuona10/22/12 at 20:13Kained but Able: One of many stunning coins! Love your gallery.
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Tarraco_RIC253,17 gr., max 20 mm, die-axis 6.1 commentsjmuona10/22/12 at 16:34Kained but Able: Great depiction of Mars!
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Rome_Germ_RIC1033,22 gr., max 20 mm, die-axis 6.2 commentsjmuona10/21/12 at 14:26TheEmpireNeverEnded: Really fantastic!
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Rome_Germ_RIC1033,22 gr., max 20 mm, die-axis 6.2 commentsjmuona10/21/12 at 12:42Kained but Able: Wow, a dream coin! Great detail on his two sons (?...
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Rome_RIC1453.44 gr., max 20 mm, die-axis 6-1 commentsjmuona10/20/12 at 17:07Kained but Able: Stunning detail on the equestrian reverse and what...
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Tarraco_RIC22A3.41 gr., max 19 mm, die-axis 6. Not in RIC I, but added in Sutherland (1984).1 commentsjmuona10/20/12 at 17:06Kained but Able: Wow, what a striking portrait! Amazing.
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Rome_RIC1704 commentsjmuona10/15/12 at 07:41Lloyd T: Now that is what I call a test cut!
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Rome_RIC2213.35 gr., max 19 mm, die-axis 6. Very rare.2 commentsjmuona10/14/12 at 21:33Jay GT4: Wonderful type
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Rome_RIC2213.35 gr., max 19 mm, die-axis 6. Very rare.2 commentsjmuona10/14/12 at 20:34paul1888: nice!
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Narbo_RIC1113.58 gr., max 19 mm, die-axis 6.1 commentsjmuona10/14/12 at 17:26socalcoins: This coin is spectacular!
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RIC 8 Ancient counterfeitA convincing forgery but for the broken down plating. Both dies appear to copy official ones, but the obverse lettering is slightly off. This may be due to the plating technique.
2.50 gr, max 18.5 mm, die-axis 6.
1 commentsjmuona10/09/12 at 11:48Jay GT4: A pity it is so corroded
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RIC 19 Ancient counterfeitThis is a peculiar coin. Clearly not produced with the silver-foil method, but rather by a surface enriched silver method. Both dies are convincing and the lettering is excellent and typical of the late Otho coins. The hair-do is correct for the type.
2.72 gr, max 18 mm, die-axis 6.
1 commentsjmuona10/09/12 at 11:48Jay GT4: Excellent. Would have fooled me...
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First_RIC 16This coin is minted with a die that has a spelling error. Instead of OTHONIS, OTHONS on the reverse. Three coins minted with this reverse die are known to me. Such errors are very rare in early Rome mint production. 3.24 gr, die-axis 6.1 commentsjmuona10/08/12 at 15:12Mat: Nice one!
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Third_RIC 19In spite of the die-break I like this one quite a lot. The portrait is of the late Otho style. 3.53 gr, die-axis 6.2 commentsjmuona10/08/12 at 15:11Mat: Beautiful coin & I like the die crack.
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Third_RIC 20varThis is one of my dearest coins because of its pedigree. It is originally from the poet Apostolo Zeno´s collection (1668-1750). Zeno was one of the main names behind the creation of modern opera librettos. His coin collection ended up in the St. Florian Augustinian monastery close to Linz in Austria. The collection was sold in the 50s to pay for necessary repairs and it was auctioned by Dorotheum. Every time I look at this coin I get shivers thinking it lay in the cabinet while the great composer, Anton Bruckner as the organist of the monastery, played the magnificent instrument there.
2.98 gr, die-axis 6.
And now, for a while, it is in my posession.
2 commentsjmuona10/08/12 at 15:11Mat: Great history on this. Very cool.
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Third_RIC 20varThis coin comes with an original Spink sale card dated April, 1892. I have two PONT MAX reverse coins that can be dated fairly far back, this one 120 years. 3.29 gr, die-axis 6.1 commentsjmuona10/08/12 at 15:11Mat: Very nice
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Third_RIC 19In spite of the die-break I like this one quite a lot. The portrait is of the late Otho style. 3.53 gr, die-axis 6.2 commentsjmuona10/08/12 at 12:28SPQR Coins: I like this one a lot, too! Outstanding!
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RPC4321McAlee 322 (c). Semis, obverse legend counter-clockwise, no dot on reverse. 7.16 gr, max 24 mm, die-axis 12.1 commentsjmuona10/07/12 at 13:05areich: Great portrait.
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First_RIC 8This is a new picture of my long-time favourite. Comes from an old Italian collection the story goes - thank you Ed for that. Luckily the name is mostly off flan so I could "afford" it. As a type without comparison the commonest Otho. 3.55 gr, die-axis 7.1 commentsjmuona03/25/12 at 13:13mix_val: great detail
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Second_RIC 6Very few dies - less than 20 - are known with the left facing bust of Otho. The coins are rare and the Pax rarer than the Secvritas. This one has an unusually large flan. 3.45 gr, die-axis 6.2 commentsjmuona03/13/12 at 18:31David Atherton: Incredible piece!
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Second_RIC 10This coin was reportedly found in North Africa together with denarii of Clodius Macer and Galba. Although gorgeous in my view, it too had to find another keeper at one stage. Luckily it found someone who really cares. The reverse die is a bit worn and there is a flan crack, but the obverse is something else...1 commentsjmuona03/13/12 at 13:42Kained but Able: Delightful details on the Obverse. It's an ama...
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Second_RIC 6Very few dies - less than 20 - are known with the left facing bust of Otho. The coins are rare and the Pax rarer than the Secvritas. This one has an unusually large flan. 3.45 gr, die-axis 6.2 commentsjmuona03/13/12 at 13:39Kained but Able: Wow, not only a beautiful Otho portrait but a left...
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Third_RIC 21The flan is far from perfect, but both strikes are great and there is very little wear. The nicest Jupiter Otho I know of - some have nice smooth flans, but are inferior in other respects. 3.35 gr, die-axis 6.6 commentsjmuona03/11/12 at 13:50Bud Stewart: Spectacular! 5-Stars
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Third_RIC 21The flan is far from perfect, but both strikes are great and there is very little wear. The nicest Jupiter Otho I know of - some have nice smooth flans, but are inferior in other respects. 3.35 gr, die-axis 6.6 commentsjmuona03/10/12 at 20:03Randygeki(h2): really great coin!
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Third_RIC 21The flan is far from perfect, but both strikes are great and there is very little wear. The nicest Jupiter Otho I know of - some have nice smooth flans, but are inferior in other respects. 3.35 gr, die-axis 6.6 commentsjmuona03/09/12 at 20:51David Atherton: Outstanding indeed! The portrait is very memorable...
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Third_RIC 21The flan is far from perfect, but both strikes are great and there is very little wear. The nicest Jupiter Otho I know of - some have nice smooth flans, but are inferior in other respects. 3.35 gr, die-axis 6.6 commentsjmuona03/09/12 at 20:27Potator II: Wowow ! I ever thought my Otho denarius is great, ...
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Third_RIC 21The flan is far from perfect, but both strikes are great and there is very little wear. The nicest Jupiter Otho I know of - some have nice smooth flans, but are inferior in other respects. 3.35 gr, die-axis 6.6 commentsjmuona03/09/12 at 15:23Kained but Able: One of the best Otho portraits I've seen. Asto...
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Third_RIC 19This splendid portrait coin of Otho I obtained from a Helios auction (ex-Lynn). I decided to part with it and the coin found a new keeper in the NYINC. I am sure she/he will be happy with it!3 commentsjmuona02/27/12 at 14:49Caesar's Ghost: Shocked it must have been a painful separation. A...
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Third_RIC 19This splendid portrait coin of Otho I obtained from a Helios auction (ex-Lynn). I decided to part with it and the coin found a new keeper in the NYINC. I am sure she/he will be happy with it!3 commentsjmuona02/27/12 at 12:33Mat: wow, amazing condition, shame you parted with it. ...
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First_RIC 8The slightly draped bust dies are few in number. This obverse die was used to mint at least RIC 3, RIC 4, RIC 7 and RIC 8 coins. There is no reason to believe that the draped bust coins formed a special issue.1 commentsjmuona01/05/10 at 00:49Noah: fantastic toning...how do I choose a favorite when...
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Second_RIC -Curiously, this coin type used to be very rare earlier. Old auction catalogues show it very rarely but during the last 20 years many have appeared. Although double-struck, this coin has great surfaces and an interesting portrait.1 commentsjmuona01/05/10 at 00:48Noah: amazing portrait
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Third_RIC 20varAlthough the commonest PONT MAX reverse type, RIC erraneously suggested it does not exist at all in silver. This is a beautiful coin, although Otho looks slightly too neat to my liking on this particular die. 3.61 gr, die-axis 6.1 commentsjmuona01/05/10 at 00:47Noah: simply a jaw-dropping example...this is my favorit...
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Second_RIC 10This is the second commonest Otho type. This is one of my favourite coins, the obverse die is a masterpiece in my view. 3.48 gr, die-axis 6.1 commentsjmuona05/12/06 at 00:34Noah: You have a wonderful coin here! I am impressed by...
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Second_RIC 2This is the rarest Otho denarius. Seven coins, all minted with the same die-pair, are known. ANS and Paris are the only major museums to have this one. 3.27 gr, die-axis 6.1 commentsjmuona05/11/06 at 18:44slokind: One of the most distinctive of coin portraits, too...
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First_RIC 16This coin, although quite worn, is dear to me. I used to think it was from the Apostolo Zeno collection. A more detailed study has shown that although very similar in strike and wear to the die-match coin in Zeno collection, this is not the same one. The die-combination is common, ie. in Otho terms. 3.04 gr, die-axis 6.1 commentsjmuona05/11/06 at 18:41slokind: And the sweetest Victoria I ever saw. Pat L.
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First_RIC 14This is the commonest VICTORIA type. This particular die-combination is known to me from more than 10 coins!1 commentsjmuona05/11/06 at 14:39Jerome Holderman: Oh..... to find just one for my Victory collection...
   
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