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Otho55 viewsOtho, AR Denarius
IMP M OTHO CAESAR AVG TR P, bare head right
SECVR-I-TAS P R, Securitas standing left, holding wreath and sceptre.
cf. RIC I 8; BMCRE 18; RSC 17.
Condemned as modern fake due to cast appearance and incorrect style on both sides but perhaps more obvious on the reverse.peterpil19Aug 30, 2018
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EGYPT, Alexandria, Antinous, struck under Hadrian, 63 viewsRPC III 6074; Egypt, Alexandria, under Hadrian; L ƐΝΝƐΑΚ·Δ or L ΙΘ = year 19; Date: 134/5 AD; Obverse inscription: ΑΝΤΙΝΟΟΥ ΗΡWΟС; Obverse design: bare-headed and draped (on l. front shoulder) bust of Antinous wearing hemhem crown, right; Reverse inscription: L ΙΘ; Reverse design: Antinous galloping on horse, right, holding caduceus; Metal: Bronze; Average diameter: 27 mm; Average weight: 15.08 g
This specimen, belonging to the BnF collection, is a cast fake. A casting mother has been located (original coin from which the cast was taken); together with a casting twin, both of which sharing the same defects not originating from the dies themselves i.e. those defects (edge splits) have been transferred in the casting process onto this cast coin, not struck onto the coin from the dies in antiquity.
Refer discussion: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=116323
Refer Fake Coin entry: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-19459
Refer BnF specimen: http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/3/6074/
peterpil19Aug 09, 2018
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Athens194 viewsAthens Old Style Owl Tetradrachm.
Modern forgery.
Identified by Din X as a die match to the types discovered by Barry P. Murphy - refer this report: http://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-19325
Din X further comments that: "toning and dirt is artificial, flan shape is very odd and details do look a little bit soft."
peterpil19Mar 02, 2018
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Athens226 viewsAthens Old Style Owl Tetradrachm.
Modern forgery, originally identified by Barry P. Murphy on ancients discussion board:
Good evening all,
I'd like to share a group of fake Athens tetradrachms that have been on the market for at least the last 3 years.
The coins are all struck from the same obverse die and two reverse dies. The obverses all have the small bump above the lip, the raised bumps on the nose, the lines protruding from the forehead and the unusual curve to the right hand petal of the flower on the helmet. There are other points of identification but this should suffice.
The two reverse dies can be easily distinguished by the large flaw under the left eye that appears on one of the dies.
None of the coins have an apparent crest, just a row of small dots then some blurred metal.
The two coins in my fake trays have been there since early 2004.
While I've had the two fakes for awhile, the problem didn't really come to my attention until earlier this summer. Victor at CNG showed me an Athens tetradrachm that had just come from Europe and asked my opinion. The coin had a satiny texture (like the two in my black trays) and looked odd. After some study I came to the conclusion that the coin was fake. He then confirmed that he was of the same opinion. I believe that coin was returned to the seller and I don't have a photo of that coin. I then did some searching and found he other 3 coins, one found on Vcoins at the time and 2 on CoinArchives.
I didn't realize at the time that I had two of the same fakes in my black trays. That fact wasn't realized until an hour ago when sorting my fakes.
In the flesh, the two coins on my desk and the one Victor showed me have a satiny appearance. I studied the CNG coin for about 30 seconds and had thought it was fake, then studied it closer for a few minutes. None of the coins appear to me to be very deceptive, but evidently they have fooled a few people so be on the lookout. All have been artificially toned and have had some dirt applied. I'm certain that there are others out there.
Upon closer examination, I will leave open the possibility that the NY Sale coin may have been the host for the obverse and the one reverse die. The cracks on the edge do look a bit more authentic and the coin doesn't appear to have th same satiny surfaces.
Barry Murphypeterpil19Mar 02, 2018
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Fantasy coin, obverse of Apollo?18 viewsModern fake fantasy coin.
Laureate bust of (Apollo?) facing left / Unknown monogram or device within dotted border.peterpil19Mar 01, 2018
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KINGS OF MACEDON, Alexander III the Great, Fantasy die combination31 viewsKINGS OF MACEDON, Alexander III the Great, Myriandros mint (obverse die), Athena mint (reverse die)
Fantasy coin with Head of Herakles / Head of Athena die combination.
Obverse die linked to BSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 5 No.1/2 1980 Page 2 Fig 6
Reverse die linked to other fantasy combinations in fake reports.
Identified by Din Xpeterpil19Jan 20, 2018
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KINGS OF MACEDON, Alexander III the Great37 viewsKINGS OF MACEDON, Alexander III the Great, AR Tetradrachm, Myriandros mint
Catalog Newell 2835 Muller 1298
Weight : 16.7g
IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 5 No.1/2 1980 Page 2 Fig 6
This coin has been condemned by the IBSCC Photo/ by permission International Bureau for the Suppression of Counterfeit Coins. Refer Bulletin on Counterfeits reference above.peterpil19Jan 20, 2018
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Demetrios II Nikator32 viewsSELEUKID KINGS of SYRIA. Demetrios II Nikator. AR Tetradrachm.
Modern forgery. Fantasy die combination. Head of Athena as per Athenian owl tetradrachms / Head of Demetrios II
Identified by Din X
Die-linked (head of Demetrios) to other fakes of Demetrios II
peterpil19Jan 20, 2018
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Demetrios II Nikator38 viewsTop coin:
SELEUKID KINGS of SYRIA. Demetrios II Nikator. First reign, 146-138 BC. AR Tetradrachm. Sidon mint. Dated SE 168 (145/4 BC). Diademed and draped bust right / ΔΗΜΗΤΡΙΟΥ - ΒΑΣΙΛEΩΣ, Eagle standing left on prow, with palm frond over shoulder; to left, ΗΞΡ (date) above monogram; to right, ΣΙΔΩ above aphlaston. SC 1954.2b; HGC 9, 969; DCA 154.
This coin was sold at auction.
Style is wrong. Pressed from modern dies. Obverse die-linked to the Bottom coin (fantasy coin).
Bottom coin:
This is a fantasy coin.
Both coins identified by Din X as modern forgeries.peterpil19Jan 20, 2018
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Demetrios II Nikator48 viewsSELEUKID KINGS OF SYRIA. Demetrios II Nikator, second reign, 129-126/5 BC. Tetradrachm. Antiochia on the Orontes, struck circa 129-128. Obverse: Diademed and horned head of Demetrios II to right. Reverse: BAΣIΛEΩΣ / ΔHMHTPIOY - ΘEOY / NIKATOPOΣ, Zeus seated left, holding Nike in his right hand and long scepter with his left; to outer left, Ξ; below throne, Δ. SNG Spaer 2162 var. (O below throne); Newell, SMA 321; Houghton, CSE 288 var. (same)
Top coin is published in BSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 5 No.1/2 1980 Page 4
Bottom coin is an obverse die match, thus also a modern forgery.
Identified by Din X as a modern forgery struck or pressed from modern dies
peterpil19Jan 19, 2018
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Demetrios II Nikator43 viewsSELEUKID KINGS OF SYRIA. Demetrios II Nikator, second reign, 129-126/5 BC. Tetradrachm. Antiochia on the Orontes, struck circa 129-128. Obverse: Diademed and horned head of Demetrios II to right. Reverse: BAΣIΛEΩΣ / ΔHMHTPIOY - ΘEOY / NIKATOPOΣ, Zeus seated left, holding Nike in his right hand and long scepter with his left; Date EΠP in exergue, monogram of ΔH in outer left field, monogram of AΠ under throne. Damascus, SY 185 = 128/7 BC.
28 mm, 16.71 g
Top coin is published in IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 18 No.1 1993 Page 30 Fig 8a
Bottom coin is an obverse die match, thus also a modern forgery.
Struck or pressed from modern dies.
Identified by Din Xpeterpil19Jan 19, 2018
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Demetrios II Nikator43 viewsSELEUKID KINGS OF SYRIA. Demetrios II Nikator, second reign, 129-126/5 BC. Tetradrachm. Antiochia on the Orontes, struck circa 129-128. Obverse: Diademed and horned head of Demetrios II to right. Reverse: BAΣIΛEΩΣ / ΔHMHTPIOY - ΘEOY / NIKATOPOΣ, Zeus seated left, holding Nike in his right hand and long scepter with his left; to outer left, Ξ; below throne, Δ. SNG Spaer 2162 var. (O below throne); Newell, SMA 321; Houghton, CSE 288 var. (same).
Top coin is published in IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 18 No.1 1993 Page 30 Fig 8a
Bottom coin is a reverse die match, thus also a modern forgery. Note the Victory with only one wing.
Struck or pressed from modern dies.
Identified by Din X as modern forgerypeterpil19Jan 19, 2018
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Demetrios II Nikator32 viewsSELEUKID KINGS OF SYRIA. Demetrios II Nikator, second reign, 129-126/5 BC. Tetradrachm. Antiochia on the Orontes, struck circa 129-128. Obverse: Diademed and horned head of Demetrios II to right. Reverse: BAΣIΛEΩΣ / ΔHMHTPIOY - ΘEOY / NIKATOPOΣ, Zeus seated left, holding Nike in his right hand and long scepter with his left; to outer left, Ξ; below throne, Δ. SNG Spaer 2162 var. (O below throne); Newell, SMA 321; Houghton, CSE 288 var. (same).
Reverse die match to coin published in IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 5 No.1/2 1980 Page 4
Identified by Din X as modern forgery
Struck or pressed from modern dies.peterpil19Jan 19, 2018
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Demetrios II Nikator36 viewsSELEUKID KINGS OF SYRIA. Demetrios II Nikator, second reign, 129-126/5 BC. Tetradrachm. Antiochia on the Orontes, struck circa 129-128. Obverse: Diademed and horned head of Demetrios II to right. Reverse: BAΣIΛEΩΣ / ΔHMHTPIOY - ΘEOY / NIKATOPOΣ, Zeus seated left, holding Nike in his right hand and long scepter with his left; to outer left, Ξ; below throne, Δ. SNG Spaer 2162 var. (O below throne); Newell, SMA 321; Houghton, CSE 288 var. (same)
17.24g
Struck or pressed from modern dies.
IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 5 No.1/2 1980 Page 4
This coin has been condemned by the IBSCC Photo/ by permission International Bureau for the Suppression of Counterfeit Coins. Refer Bulletin on Counterfeits reference above. From a series of "A group of false Seleucid Tetradrachms".peterpil19Jan 19, 2018
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Demetrios II Nikator37 viewsSELEUKID KINGS OF SYRIA. Demetrios II Nikator, second reign, 129-126/5 BC. Tetradrachm. Antiochia on the Orontes, struck circa 129-128. Obverse: Diademed and horned head of Demetrios II to right. Reverse: BAΣIΛEΩΣ / ΔHMHTPIOY - ΘEOY / NIKATOPOΣ, Zeus seated left, holding Nike in his right hand and long scepter with his left; to outer left, Ξ; below throne, O. SC 2166.2c.
Identified by Din X as a modern forgery, struck or pressed, from modern dies, the work of a Beirut forger who reportedly creates fakes for the coins of many Syrian Kings using his own modern dies of his own style. Stylistic signs identified with this type of coin indicating it is a modern forgery include: crude head and hair of Zeus; style of the anatomy of Zeus on the reverse; and the crudely depicted one-winged Victory.peterpil19Jan 19, 2018
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Demetrios II Nikator31 viewsSELEUKID KINGS OF SYRIA. Demetrios II Nikator, second reign, 129-126/5 BC. Tetradrachm. Antiochia on the Orontes, struck circa 129-128. Obverse: Diademed and horned head of Demetrios II to right. Reverse: BAΣIΛEΩΣ / ΔHMHTPIOY - ΘEOY / NIKATOPOΣ, Zeus seated left, holding Nike in his right hand and long scepter with his left; to outer left, Ξ; below throne, O. SC 2166.2c.
Identified by Din X as a modern forgery, struck or pressed, from modern dies, the work of a Beirut forger who reportedly creates fakes for the coins of many Syrian Kings using his own modern dies of his own style. Stylistic signs identified with this type of coin indicating it is a modern forgery include: crude head and hair of Zeus; style of the anatomy of Zeus on the reverse; and the crudely depicted one-winged Victory.peterpil19Jan 19, 2018
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Demetrios II Nikator39 viewsSELEUKID KINGS OF SYRIA. Demetrios II Nikator, second reign, 129-126/5 BC. Tetradrachm. Antiochia on the Orontes, struck circa 129-128. Obverse: Diademed and horned head of Demetrios II to right. Reverse: BAΣIΛEΩΣ / ΔHMHTPIOY - ΘEOY / NIKATOPOΣ, Zeus seated left, holding Nike in his right hand and long scepter with his left; to outer left, Ξ; below throne, O. SC 2166.2c.
Identified by Din X as a modern forgery, struck or pressed, from modern dies, the work of a Beirut forger who reportedly creates fakes for the coins of many Syrian Kings using his own modern dies of his own style. Stylistic signs identified with this type of coin indicating it is a modern forgery include: crude head and hair of Zeus; style of the anatomy of Zeus on the reverse; and the crudely depicted one-winged Victory.peterpil19Jan 19, 2018
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Aeolis, Kyme186 viewsIdentified by Din X as a modern forgery, struck likely from transfer dies. The dies match Oakley 58.
Signs which condemn it include artificial toning and coin is too flat.
Aeolis, Kyme; AR Tetradrachm; Silver; circa 165-140 BC; Obverse: Head of the Amazon Kyme right, wearing taenia; Reverse: Horse walking right, skyphos (one-handled cup) below, KYMAIΩN left, ΣEYΘHΣ (magistrate) in exergue, all within laurel-wreath.
J Sermarini: The style seems off. Oakley 58 is probably not ancient and the dies are modern rather than transfer dies. peterpil19Jan 19, 2018
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Aeolis, Kyme69 viewsPublished fake from IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits Volume 5 No 12 1980 page 8, figure 1.
No explanation is provided but appears to be a transfer die fake as both dies matches the (authentic) dies of Oakley 58.
Aeolis, Kyme; AR Tetradrachm; Silver; circa 165-140 BC; Obverse: Head of the Amazon Kyme right, wearing taenia; Reverse: Horse walking right, skyphos (one-handled cup) below, KYMAIΩN left, ΣEYΘHΣ (magistrate) in exergue, all within laurel-wreath.
From BOC report: Copies from the Cilicia hoard (1975-76), from Beirut. Struck peterpil19Jan 19, 2018
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Antiochus V Eupator29 viewsDie match with IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 5 No.1/2 1980 Page 4 Fig 2
http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=zlpqUtDZqE8=
Antiochus V Eupator (164-162 BC). AR tetradrachm. Antioch. Diademed head of Antiochus right / ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ ΕΥΠΑΤΟΡΟΣ, Zeus enthroned left, holding vertical sceptre and Nike who crowns the king's name, ΔI monogram in outer left field. SC 1575.1.
Identified as modern forgery by Din Xpeterpil19Jan 18, 2018
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Antiochus V Eupator26 viewsDie match with IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 5 No.1/2 1980 Page 4 Fig 2
http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=zlpqUtDZqE8=
Antiochus V Eupator (164-162 BC). AR tetradrachm. Antioch. Diademed head of Antiochus right / ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ ΕΥΠΑΤΟΡΟΣ, Zeus enthroned left, holding vertical sceptre and Nike who crowns the king's name, ΔI monogram in outer left field. SC 1575.1.
Identified as modern forgery by Din Xpeterpil19Jan 18, 2018
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Antiochus V Eupator28 viewsDie match with IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 5 No.1/2 1980 Page 4 Fig 2
http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=zlpqUtDZqE8=
Antiochus V Eupator (164-162 BC). AR tetradrachm. Antioch. Diademed head of Antiochus right / ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ ΕΥΠΑΤΟΡΟΣ, Zeus enthroned left, holding vertical sceptre and Nike who crowns the king's name, ΔI monogram in outer left field. SC 1575.1.
Identified as modern forgery by Din Xpeterpil19Jan 18, 2018
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Antiochus V Eupator33 viewsDie match with IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 5 No.1/2 1980 Page 4 Fig 2
http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=zlpqUtDZqE8=
Antiochus V Eupator (164-162 BC). AR tetradrachm. Antioch. Diademed head of Antiochus right / ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ ΕΥΠΑΤΟΡΟΣ, Zeus enthroned left, holding vertical sceptre and Nike who crowns the king's name, ΔI monogram in outer left field. SC 1575.1.
Identified as modern forgery by Din Xpeterpil19Jan 18, 2018
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Antiochus V Eupator39 viewsDie match with IBSCC Bulletin on Counterfeits BOCS Vol 5 No.1/2 1980 Page 4 Fig 2
http://forgerynetwork.com/asset.aspx?id=zlpqUtDZqE8=
Antiochus V Eupator (164-162 BC). AR tetradrachm. Antioch. Diademed head of Antiochus right / ΒΑΣΙΛΕΩΣ ΑΝΤΙΟΧΟΥ ΕΥΠΑΤΟΡΟΣ, Zeus enthroned left, holding vertical sceptre and Nike who crowns the king's name, ΔI monogram in outer left field. SC 1575.1.
Identified as modern forgery by Din Xpeterpil19Jan 18, 2018
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