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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #25 on: September 05, 2014, 11:42:58 am »
Great work, Martin, thank you for all the information. I find it interesting that these always seem to be really well preserved.  I think it's partially due to the climate, but I wonder if these had a short circulation period, too?

Sorry for the slight delay in answering you Molinari.  :-[

I agree, the coins do in general appear to be well preserved and show exceptional detail, maybe weight & size had something to do with their preservation. Most coins of this type weigh 9 grams or more and averaged 4mm in thickness, this could in part answer your question regarding short circulation. i.e the abundance of material used in the striking of these coins probably kept the coins in circulation for longer periods of time.

Unfortunately poor photographic quality accounted for the majority of the illegible dates and there were two extremely worn coins that just made up the numbers.

The chart i posted on 30th April shows a steady increase in coin production which suggests that the Marathenians were enjoying a prosperous period, that is until the destruction of the city by the Aradians between the years 150/145 B.C.



The image below shows a coin i acquired some time ago dating from 158/157 B.C (Marathenian era 102), which as far as i am aware of increases the total number of coins with this specific era date to four.

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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2015, 03:36:34 pm »
The latest addition to my Marathos gallery is this well-centered veiled Astarte with slight tint of orange patina.

The unusual aspect about this coin is the mintmark between the era date and Marathos on the reverse, i am aware of other samples with the same mintmark but this variant is quite rare. I am reffering to aleph (´) and nun (N), both letters could have been included for the purpose of reacerting Marathos´s close ties with Arados or just belong to the same engraver employed by both cities.

Not in Duyrat 2002.



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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2015, 10:28:33 am »
Hi All;
I would like to share my coin with you:
PHOENICIA, Marathos. 221/0-152/1 BC. Æ (22mm, 12,1 g, 1h). Dated Year 91 ?(169/8 BC) -Veiled female head right (Berenike II?) / Marathos standing left holding aphlaston and leaning on short column. Duyrat, Ateliers Series 4, 115-121; BMC 123 # 23?-Superb black patina
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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2015, 03:32:25 am »
Hi All;
I would like to share my coin with you:
PHOENICIA, Marathos. 221/0-152/1 BC. Æ (22mm, 12,1 g, 1h). Dated Year 91 ?(169/8 BC) -Veiled female head right (Berenike II?) / Marathos standing left holding aphlaston and leaning on short column. Duyrat, Ateliers Series 4, 115-121; BMC 123 # 23?-Superb black patina
regards
Nassif

Hi,

I hope you dont mind me redating your coin for you ?

In my opinion your coin should be dated year 102 (158-157 B.C).

A most exquisite coin Nassif, thanks for sharing.

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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2015, 10:34:34 am »
Hi;
I am really very grateful for you to redated my coin because i was not sure about it
Thanks a lot for your help & contribution +++ to understand phoenician coins... +++
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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #30 on: April 28, 2015, 03:06:45 pm »
It´s been awhile since i posted any coins on this thread so i thought i would share my latest série 4 from Marathos.

Final attribution;

Phoenicia, Marathos 155-154 B.C

AE 21.82mm (Thickness 4.20mm), weight 10.40g, die axis = 12h (0 degrees), denomination B.

Obverse: Veiled bust of Astarte right with border of dots.

Reverse: Marathos standing left holding aphlaston and leaning on column, in right field mem (M) resh & taw (T) meaning Amrit (Marathos), mintmarks ayin (`) bottom right, with qoph (Q) & nun (N) left between date and Marathos, Marathenian (=Aradian) era date 105 on the left read upwards.

Duyrat 2002 Pg.28 No.141-147

https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2015/04/28/mr-no-amac-105nq12-b-kl/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/118481253@N02/16683291383/

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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #31 on: July 29, 2015, 02:33:44 pm »
Here is another fine example of detailed workmanship, my hats of to the Marathenian engraver.

Final attribution;

Phoenicia, Marathos 154-153 B.C

AE 22.69mm (Thickness 3.40mm), weight 9.01g, die axis = 1h (30 degrees), denomination B.

Obverse: Veiled bust of Astarte right with border of dots.

Reverse: Marathos standing left holding aphlaston and leaning on column, in right field mem (M) resh & taw (T) meaning Amrit (Marathos), mintmarks ayin (`) bottom right with gimel (G) & lamedh (L) left between date and Marathos, Marathenian (=Aradian) era date 106 on the left read upwards.


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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2015, 08:24:32 pm »
I love these pieces with such clearly legible inscriptions.

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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #33 on: August 05, 2015, 03:09:55 pm »
There are differences of opinion to whom adorns the obverse of this type and many other types depicting a female bust. When studying this interesting Marathos coin i came across two published coins that were described as being either that of Cleopatra II or Artemis. One of these can be found in HGC10 on page 56 No.200 and the other on acsearch. My arguments against Artemis are based upon her having a stronger Anatolian (Asia Minor or modern day Turkey) connection than that of Levantinian (Levant or Phoenicia). For the bust to be that of Cleopatra II i would say that age plays a big part in discounting her from this series, she would have been at the time of minting fourteen to sixteen years of age. One could also theorize that her mother Cleopatra I could have been a likely contender but she had died six years previously, long before this series went into production.

I´m not discounting the fact that the overlords or rulers of the time would have wanted their likenesses on Marathenian coins of this period, the hard part is proving that this is the case. This leaves for now one alternative, we know through ancient writings that the Phoenicians worshiped one female deity in particular and that was Astarte the goddess of war, fertility and sexuality. She is for me an obvious candidate, so inevitably and until further evidence suggests otherwise i will continue to attribute this type and others to that of Astarte.

The remaining coins i have been able to track down describe the obverse as being that of a female with laureate and draped bust (known specimens total 18 coins).

Moving on, i did manage to find a possible die match for my coin. They both appear to have the same die faults which i have marked with a white arrows, see attached images showing my coin left with die match on the right. Please give me your opinions, i would like to know if my imagination as got the better of me.

Please follow links provided to see my coin in its entirety and for a fascinating close up of Nike´s face.

https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2015/08/05/differences-of-opinion/

Edit - 8 April 2020: The mintmark between Nike and era date has now been identified has mem and not nun.


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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2016, 07:48:47 am »
Laureate head of Hermes with caduceus over shoulder


Phoenicia, Marathos 174-173 B.C

AE 20.63mm (Thickness 3.09mm), weight 7.13g, die axis = 1h (30 degrees), denomination B.

Obverse: Laureate head of Hermes right, caduceus over shoulder, border of dots.

Reverse: Marathos standing left holding aphlaston and leaning on column, in right field mem (M) resh (R) & taw (T) meaning Amrit (Marathos), mintmarks beth (B) bottom right with Taw (T) left between date and Marathos, Marathenian (=Aradian) era date 86 on the left read upwards.

https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2016/11/13/mr-no-hmac-86bt1-b-qg/

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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #35 on: May 16, 2017, 02:28:20 pm »
Phoenicia, Marathos 112-111 B.C

AE 19.64mm (Thickness 2.96mm), weight 6.41g, die axis = 12h (0 degrees), denomination B.

Obverse: Diademed head of Zeus right, laureate border of dots.

Reverse: Double Cornucopia tied with Taenia, Yodh (Y), Mem (M) & Beth (B) left with Nun below, Marathenian (=Aradian) era date 148 on the right read upwards with Beth (B) below.


https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2017/05/16/mr-no-zdct-148ymb12-b-sg/

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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2017, 01:54:05 pm »
Bust of Hermes Right & Hero Marathos Standing - Duyrat 2002 Série 7, New Era Date


Frédérique Duyrat described this type as follows “Hermès à droite caducée sur l'épaule, héros Marathos debout tenant un aplustre” (1).

Having checked the various reference books, websites and museum collections, i was unable to find any additional coins with matching date. This new find now extends our knowledge of the series by a further three years from Aradian year 92 to 95 (165-164 B.C) (2). Although the patina is somewhat faded in places, the well centered strike and clear details allowed for a quick identification.

(1) Roughly translated Hermes right with caduceus over or on shoulder / Hero Marathos standing & holding aplustre.

(2) Earliest known sample of this series, minted Aradian year 61 (199-198 B.C).


https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2017/09/02/bust-of-hermes-right-hero-marathos-standing-duyrat-2002-serie-7-new-era-date/

https://www.academia.edu/34444643/Bust_of_Hermes_Right_and_Hero_Marathos_Standing

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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2018, 08:31:59 am »
Unusual city monogram for a bronze coin of Marathos.


Phoenicia, Marathos 187-186 B.C

AE 15.66mm (Thickness 2.70mm), weight 3.22g, die axis = 12h (0 degrees), denomination C.

Obverse: Veiled bust of Ptolemaic Astarte right, border of dots.

Reverse: Prow of Galley left, stem curving upwards, on the deck palm branch, above Phoenician letters aleph (´), aleph (´) & daleph (D) no monogram, Marathenian (=Aradian) era date 73 below.

https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2018/09/01/mr-no-qcpd-73-d12-c-xf/

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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #38 on: September 09, 2018, 08:18:06 am »
I recently posted a rare coin issued by the Karne mint depicting Asklepios with serpents entwined around staff.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=102919.msg706842#msg706842

The coin below also depicts Asklepios but was minted in Marathos, this is not surprising due to the close vicinity and shared beliefs of the Phoenician inhabitants of both cities.


Phoenicia, Marathos 226-225 B.C

AE 18.40mm (Thickness 4.12mm), weight 7.92g, die axis = 12h (0 degrees), denomination C.

Obverse: Veiled bust of Astarte right with border of dots.

Reverse: Asklepios (Eshmun) standing right holding staff entwined with serpent (snake), in right field mem (M) resh & taw (T) meaning Amrit (Marathos); Marathenian (=Aradian) era date 34 on the left read upwards.


https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2018/09/07/mr-no-aass-34-mrt12-b-xz/

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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2023, 08:50:58 am »
Nice find, thanks for sharing Martin, though wondering why did you excluded that this coin to be from Karne too!
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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #40 on: September 17, 2023, 06:39:37 am »
Hi Canaan,

The legend consists of letters mem (M) resh & taw (T) and represent the city name of Amrit (Marathos), coinage struck in Karne would have the following legend qoph (Q) resh (R) & nun (N) meaning Qurn.

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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #41 on: September 17, 2023, 02:09:26 pm »
Thanks alot Martin for the explanation, to my presence a little bit more useful her is my new Marathos coin:

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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #42 on: September 17, 2023, 02:31:01 pm »
Beautiful coin, congrats  ;)

Its difficult to be exact due to the era date running slightly of flan, but I would say your coin is between 98-99 (162-160 BC).

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Re: Phoenicia Marathos - Bronze
« Reply #43 on: September 18, 2023, 11:24:32 am »
Thanks alot Martin
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