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Offline Thilo

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AE 30 Aurelius & Verus distyle temple
« on: January 26, 2021, 04:34:15 pm »
Good evening,

once more a provincial coin that I seem unable to identify has crossed my way.

AE30, 18.73 grm.
Obv. Laureate, bearded, cuirassed bust r. and laureate, bearded, cuirassed bust left, no intelligible legends left.
Rv. Tyche with rudder & cornucopiae standing left within distyle temple [...]ET[...]. The letter before ET might be an M.

I figured out Marcus Aurelius & Lucius Verus, of course, but could not find anything in RPC, nor in ISEGRIM.

Any help is highly appreciated.

Thilo


Offline Justin W

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Re: AE 30 Aurelius & Verus distyle temple
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2021, 05:46:19 pm »
I’m interested to see what other members find out. I searched coin, rpc, and acsearch but did not find anything close. I found facing worth temple and a figure holding a cornucopia, but none of them had a distyle temple. I understand this comment isn’t much help, but I just wanted to confirm that this is not on rpc or acsearch (I’m almost sure).



Best Regards,

Justin

Offline Thilo

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Re: AE 30 Aurelius & Verus distyle temple
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2021, 03:45:55 am »
Thanks, Justin. I also checked (as far as possible) for the obverse die to no avail - same for the reverse for coins with Marcus Aurelius and Lucius Verus, individually.

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Re: AE 30 Aurelius & Verus distyle temple
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2021, 03:47:38 pm »
Hi,
An amazing coin of Anemurion, Cilicia
you can find it  here by scrolling down http://ancientcoinage.org/coinage-of-cilicia.html#
Vladimir P

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Offline Justin W

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Re: AE 30 Aurelius & Verus distyle temple
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2021, 04:27:56 pm »
Wow, congratulations Thilo on acquiring such a rare coin! Also, Vladimir very impressive that you were able to find another example of it!



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Re: AE 30 Aurelius & Verus distyle temple
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2021, 04:44:20 pm »
Dear Thilo, Justin W, and Board,

The problem with your coin is that the confronted busts on the obverse may have been completely unknown to us until now for whatever Greek polis issued it.  When this happens, we need to think outside the box.  That is why I am tentatively suggesting Anemurium as a possibility.  What follows is my reasoning for this attribution.  

Anemurium's rare coins are generally very crude, sometimes to the point of being cartoonish, but there were some high points as well, one of which was during Marcus and Verus' joint reign.  Two examples:

https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/4/4965

https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/4/10255

Also, the representation of Tyche with her common attributes inside a temple is a common theme on this city's coinage.  Often the temple is depicted tetrastyle, but not always.  Two examples:

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=3316578

https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/6/7004
  
The observed 'ЄΤ' on Thilo's coin looks suspiciously like an abbreviation for "year" (probably in the genitive ЄΤΟΥC), since the first two letters before them (WΝ) appear to be the end of the ethnic.  On the coinage of Anemurium this would make sense, since most of the coins are dated using the 'ЄΤ' formula.  As for its arrangement on a temple reverse type, the date is usually found by itself in the exergue, but not always.  Two examples:
  
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2224953
 
https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/6/6988

In summary, nothing here proves that Thilo's coin hails from  Anemurium, but it at least nudges the piece a little in that direction in my opinion.

Hope this helps.


Best regards,

Mark Fox
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EDIT:  Oops...a little late to the party...  And good work Vladimir!
    

Offline Thilo

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Re: AE 30 Aurelius & Verus distyle temple
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2021, 05:30:56 pm »
Dear Vladimir, dear Mark, dear Justin,

thank you so much for your support. And wow, I am amazed. To give the coin a „home“ is always wonderful. And having seen Vladimir‘s (wonderful) coin made many things clear.

So thanks, guys, thanks Mark for your amazing scholarship, thank you Vladimir for making me aware of your wonderful Cilician collection and your input that nailed the coin down, and thank you Justin for being so supportive and sharing in my joy!

Have a wonderful evening!

Thilo


Offline Vladimir P

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Re: AE 30 Aurelius & Verus distyle temple
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2021, 09:32:59 am »
Dear Thilo,
The collection isn't mine )) These coins are very nice and I would be happy to have any of these

With respect,
V.
Vladimir P

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