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Author Topic: Zeus / Mhn Standing, Hierapolis, Phrygia  (Read 816 times)

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Zeus / Mhn Standing, Hierapolis, Phrygia
« on: September 20, 2020, 09:14:56 am »
Wise eyes, what do you make of the connections between these two Hierapolis specimens?
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Re: Zeus / Mhn Standing, Hierapolis, Phrygia
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2020, 09:30:11 am »
Here's a third specimen, listed as from the "same dies" as the first:
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Re: Zeus / Mhn Standing, Hierapolis, Phrygia
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2020, 11:19:30 am »
Here are another two

Who can reconstruct the family?
If there is any!

The better-quality coin has a "pedigree" going back to 2010
Both coins sold in 2019/2020

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Re: Zeus / Mhn Standing, Hierapolis, Phrygia
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2020, 01:26:55 pm »
FWIW, here is the RPC entry for this type; RPC's 3 and 2 (the plate-coin for the entry) are included in our previous postings. https://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/coins/6/5491. Among my three first specimens (first post), all the strikes are off-center in quite similar -- though not quite the same -- ways, and the flan-crack on specimens 1 and 3 is at pretty much the same point, with perhaps a small echo at 5:30 on the obverse of specimen 2. There is also the strange ghost of Mhn's staff to the left that is visible on all three of those specimens, although not quite as clear on #2. If one or more of these is a cast copy, that's worth taking note of and better explaining; but if so, which gives rise to which? How?
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Re: Zeus / Mhn Standing, Hierapolis, Phrygia
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2020, 02:53:45 pm »
Two coins with identical dies having the same flan crack is in my opinion impossible.
I suspect coin#3 being a cast from coin#1

Coin#5 has been reworked too much for any decent statement

The reverse of coin#4 puzzles. It has the usual beaded border and a ghost rim. The obverse seems OK

Judging just from the photos the patina of all coins cast no doubts.

I cannot make up my mind - especially as we are not talking about a lot of money.
The coins were sold for "peanuts"

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