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Author Topic: Commodus, aurei, new datation of strike?  (Read 486 times)

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Offline Flav V

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Commodus, aurei, new datation of strike?
« on: September 15, 2019, 05:24:37 am »
Hello,  :)

I made a work on some aurei of commodus. You can read it here: https://www.all-your-coins.com/en/blog/antique/romaines/commode-fortvna-manenti-liaison-de-coin

Im waiting for your comments and maybe suggestions or adding.

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Re: Commodus, aurei, new datation of strike?
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2019, 08:05:33 pm »
Interesting, though difficult to follow because your two links to other aurei don't work for me.

Commodus' Fortuna Manens type also occurs on a dated As, with rev. legend

FORT MANENT P M TR P XIIII COS V P P S C.

Cohen 162 (Paris) = RIC 534 and BMC p. 321. Not in CoinArchives, but I am sure the date TR P XIIII is correct. This is one of four types that are undated on aurei, denarii, and sestertii, but dated TR P XIIII on asses only; the other three are PACI AETER, PIET SENAT, and VICT FELI. Probably a New Year's issue of asses for 1 Jan. 189, so prepared at the end of 188, c. Nov.-Dec.

Basically, since it occurs with date TR P XIIII on asses, the Fortuna Manens type was later than the TR P XIII Aequitas and the FOR RED TR P XIII types that were struck with the same obv. die on aurei. It often happened that an aureus obv. die was used for two or more sequential issues. It's hard to assess your arguments from die state without good enlargements or plaster casts of the coins.
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Re: Commodus, aurei, new datation of strike?
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2019, 03:33:04 am »
Thank you for your comment. Here are the two other coins.

You can see the evolution of the die with the break on the AEQUITAS type. Maybe Manens type is early on aurei but later on other denominations.

 

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