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Offline v-drome

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Hadrianopolis Coin in Forum Shop - Eros or Thanatos
« on: June 17, 2019, 04:56:42 pm »
Hi, all.  I noticed a very nice coin of Hadrianopolis in the Forum shop that is described as Thanatos.  I thought that Pat Lawrence had already made a strong case for this figure as an exhausted Eros.  In addition, a gem in my collection with an identical figure has many parallels in major gem collections, all of which also identify the figure with Eros.  I just wanted to make sure I have described my gem correctly.  Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks, V-drome.

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Re: Hadrianopolis Coin in Forum Shop - Eros or Thanatos
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2019, 05:49:36 pm »
Nice find
All the Best,
Eric
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Re: Hadrianopolis Coin in Forum Shop - Eros or Thanatos
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2019, 05:52:55 pm »
Varbanov II (E) lists this coin as winged Genius stg. r., legs crossed, resting on a torch. p. 290 #3526, citing wildwinds. It is depicted and appears to be a double die match.  Jurukova 390 has Genius as well. cf. Mionnet Supp. II p. 318 #703 stg. l. Cupid.

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Re: Hadrianopolis Coin in Forum Shop - Eros or Thanatos
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2019, 12:39:29 pm »
Thank you, Eric and JPW, for the information.

Regards, Jimi

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Re: Hadrianopolis Coin in Forum Shop - Eros or Thanatos
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2019, 01:40:42 pm »
The figure on the reverse is sometimes identified as Eros (Cupid) or a generic winged Genius. The inverted torch represents a life extinguished, indicating the figure is Thanatos (death). By the Severan Era, there was increased hope for an afterlife in pleasant Elysium rather than in dismal Hades. Thanatos was associated more with a gentle passing than a woeful demise. Thanatos as a winged boy, very much akin to Cupid, with crossed legs and an inverted torch, became the most common symbol for death, depicted on many Roman sarcophagi.

The top image is from an early 4th century Roman sarcophagus.

The bottom image is from the sarcophagus of a couple found near Tripolis dated to the 2nd or 3rd century.  It is believed they died together in a plague. Is it possible these types were struck shortly after a plague, in memory of those lost?

Thanatos is a daimon, a genius, but not just any genius. He looks like cupid or eros, but he is not. Thanatos is not love, he is death, specifically non-violent death.

People would like to deny death but Thanatos does not care.  
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Re: Hadrianopolis Coin in Forum Shop - Eros or Thanatos
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2019, 06:28:54 pm »
Patricia Lawrence was right about this: definitely Eros.
For the reasons why, and an explanation of how the Thanatos misinterpretation came about, please see my essay "Eros and Thanatos":
http://eroscoin.blogspot.com/2011/03/eros-and-thanatos.html

 

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