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Offline Germania Magna

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« on: November 16, 2018, 06:06:58 pm »
Have a look at that seller`s coins on ebay:

https://www.ebay.com/usr/diosesdelolimpo?_trksid=p2047675.l2559

All fake coins, most of the denarius coins he is offering, at least those starting at a low price.

Astounded that he didn`t receive an negative evaluations on ebay so far.

The fakes offered evince some craftsmanship, so much more it is essential to out this seller as a fake seller, in my view.


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Re: diosesdelolimpo
« Reply #1 on: November 17, 2018, 10:00:49 am »
An offering of sver coins spanning several hundred years, all in excellent condition, and all bearing exactly the same toning... What could possibly be suspicious ???


   I nominate the seller for the NFSL....

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Re: diosesdelolimpo
« Reply #2 on: November 17, 2018, 05:03:23 pm »
I will put some of his coins on this board for closer observation and discussion and later add them to this board`s fake reports - once I`ve got more time available to do so, probably in December. 

The Greek ones are apparently more misleading, being forged with less suspicious signs of their being counterfeits. I am not an expert on Greek coins, anyway. Nonetheless, they also bear signs of forgeries which can and will become apparent if examined more thoroughly and intensely.

As far as the denarius coins are concerned, however, my verdict is harsh and unambiguous without hesitation: bloody fakes (the ones starting at a low price, at least). 
 

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Re: diosesdelolimpo
« Reply #3 on: November 17, 2018, 05:56:26 pm »
The Denarius of Hadrian seems very similar to the Ric 127 in the Fake Coin Report...
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Re: diosesdelolimpo
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2018, 06:26:25 pm »
all fakes

   diosesdelolimpo      12-feb-18      Huidig
belyerac      02-sep-12      12-feb-18
prometeo_2005      04-mei-12      02-sep-12
spanish_coin      26-feb-12      04-mei-12
prometeo_2005      05-okt-11      26-feb-12
senatus_consultum_2005      25-sep-10      05-okt-11
big-apolo      10-aug-10      25-sep-10
p*********5      15-aug-05      10-aug-10
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Re: diosesdelolimpo
« Reply #5 on: November 17, 2018, 08:51:08 pm »
diosesdelolimpo added to the NFSL. Fake coin reports for any new types please.
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Re: diosesdelolimpo
« Reply #6 on: November 17, 2018, 10:05:00 pm »
Fake coin report added for the Hadrian.
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Re: diosesdelolimpo
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2018, 06:47:05 am »
Here the evidence that this coin supposed to be by Q. Fabius Maximus (Crawford 265/1) is a fake:

Encircled in red: cast pits.

What is striking is the obverse: It bears no significant evidence of this coin being a cast at first sight, which makes this fake quite dangerous in my eyes.

Encircled in green: smut resembling patina, suggesting ancient origin.

It becomes evident that the forger used an almost perfect model to make his cast, making it very attractive at first sight, apart from the scratches and copied "signs of usage" suggesting authenticity.

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Re: diosesdelolimpo
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2018, 07:06:48 am »
This coin offered by the same seller is a copy, too.

It is supposed to be by P. Maenius Antiaticus, Crawford 249/1.

I marked the pit holes. Again, the obverse bears no unambiguous traces of forgery.

It is only the reverse which allows us to pass our deplorable verdict.


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Re: diosesdelolimpo
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2018, 10:51:12 am »
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Re: diosesdelolimpo
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2018, 04:44:27 pm »
I have saved the pics.  ;D  They will be added to the shameful reports in December.    :Chi-Rho_reversed: aramaic_kaf  :crescentstar:

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Re: diosesdelolimpo
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2019, 08:43:18 am »
diosesdelolimpo is active again.
He is now offering under dharmacoins .

Fed up a with this callousness, I will add some of his fakeware to the forum`s fake gallery as soon as possible.

Apparently addressing dollar paying audience.

Of better quality the one in the attachment, but hands off, all fakes.    

As it seems, only the somewhat soft contours on the reverse give evidence of a forgery being on sale.

It seems all the more convincing as real ancient coins also show soft and blurred details very often - due to abrasion by circulation.

In this particular case "softness" is too regular and unmotivated in my eyes, especially on the reverse.

Abrasion can hardly be so regular, the more so as there is no real evidence of this coin being used.  

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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2019, 01:00:53 pm »
Here we have a quite good looking Caesar (Aeneas carrying Anchises; Crawford 458/1).

I can`t say for sure whether I wouldn`t bid (or wouldn`t have bidden) on it if it wasn`t offered by "dharmacoins" on ebay, but by a renowned auction house.

And this made me suspicious.  

So I am just happy to present this almost perfect fake (without having had the chance of buying it before, luckily, of course).

A scratch leaving such big bulges or elevations?

Anyway, to whom this isn`t proof enough, the E-graffiti seems to have been quite frequent for this coin-type at that time.  :-\
 
Compare added pics from the forum`s gallery of "proven" fakes.

Though it looks really good on this coin, however, cast scratches apparently leave traces.  

The election scene denarius by Publius Licinius (added in the second attachment) is also quite a stunning fake.

Above all the incuse looking inscription on the reverse seems to differ from originals.

In general, fakes like the ones offered by diosesdelolimpo or "drharmcoin" can be detected by looking out for brownish or grey stain/discoloration (resembling sandy patina) between elevated figures and depictions and the surface of the coin in general.  

For some reasons, this stain or coloring must come up when or after these coins are produced.  

It is a characteristic they all seem to have in common, with varying intensity. They all bear "exactly [or: roughly] the same toning",
as Lee S stated above.

 

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