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« on: August 13, 2018, 02:01:44 am »

Why are some stated as GREEK and some as ROMAN EMPIRE PROVINCIAL?

i would say all are ROMAN EMPIRE PROVINCIAL
For me the GREEK are provincials and not Greek

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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2018, 02:39:13 am »

Quote from: okidoki on August 13, 2018, 02:01:44 am
Why are some stated as GREEK and some as ROMAN EMPIRE PROVINCIAL?

i would say all are ROMAN EMPIRE PROVINCIAL
For me the GREEK are provincials and not Greek

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=6

True for this Hadrian listed as Greek

http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-145295

but why should we regard this Taras Didrachm as provincial HuhHuh

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both coins from your link
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2018, 02:48:05 am »

Not sure what you mean, Hadrian's i have there are provincials to me, maybe a Greek provincial ?
Romans ruled and not the Greeks anymore

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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2018, 02:49:48 am »

Ah, you are only talking about your Hadrians. You did not mention this. You wrote that all coins listed as Greek are Provincials.
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2018, 02:55:37 am »

Ah, you are only taking about your Hadrians. You did not mention this. You wrote that all coins listed as Greek are Provincials.

ah yes i am sorry.

Yes talking on Hadrian his coins

some are
ROMAN EMPIRE PROVINCIAL
GREEK
Roman Empire

even the Hadrian, Cistophorus are not under provincial for me they are all provincial if not minted in Rome

hit last added on http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-6
see the mix up in my eyes
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« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2018, 03:36:21 am »

RPC gives a nice definition:

The provincial coinage is defined pragmatically as including all those  coins which are not ‘imperial’ (i.e. those not listed in the publication Roman Imperial Coinage).

http://rpc.ashmus.ox.ac.uk/intro/whatisrpc/
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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2018, 03:47:40 am »

Thank you Ralf,

So that is why i do not understand why someone changes the title

here its provincial changed into Greek
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-142503

And here as i think is correct
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-144362
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2018, 11:01:05 am »

Not only is the Taras coin not Provincial,  it is also not "unpublished".    Huh

Calling Romam Provincial coins Greek has always been a pet peeve of mine.  My rule of thumb is  'if it depicts a Roman emperor it is not Greek!'

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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2018, 03:44:26 pm »

Just to add to this discussion, I just want to thank Mr.K Butcher who, exactly 30 years ago, introduced the expression Roman provincial coins instead of the ancient Greek imperial !
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