Rare Probus from Siscia, Bust not in RIC and Not in Alföldi !

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Rare Probus from Siscia, Bust not in RIC and Not in Alföldi !

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112 Probus (276-282 A.D.), AE-Antoninianus, RIC V-II 748var., Siscia, SALVS AVG, Bust-Gvar./E2, -/V//XXI, Salus standing left, Bust Not in RIC !!! and No Not in Alfoldi !!!, Rare !!!,
avers: IMP PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield, seen from back, shield in front and a spear pointing forward. (Gvar./E2)
reverse: SALVS AVG, Salus standing right, feeding serpent in arms.
exergue: -/V//XXI, diameter: 21,2-22,0mm, weight: 3,57g, axis: 6h,
mint: Siscia, 7th emission, date: 280 A.D., ref: RIC V-II 748var., Bust not in RIC, Alföldi type 65 n° Not in !!!; Rare!!!,

Q.

[maridvnvm]

Very nice indeed. It's nice to see these turn up now and again. It just makes you realise how many Probus variations there must actually be in total (probably 10s of thousands). The bust is very attractive indeed.

I also managed to find a Siscia example recently where the bust type was not in RIC for the type (not unexpected) but also not in Alfoldi (more unexpected). The officinal on my example was also not noted in either reference.

Probus
Obv:–VIRTVS PROBI AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust left, with spear (or sceptre?)
Rev:– PROVIDENT AVG, Providentia standing left, holding globe and sceptre
Minted in Siscia (_ Q / XXI). 7th emission, A.D. 280
Reference:– RIC 722 var. (Unlisted bust type). This bust type also unlisted in Alföldi as is this officina

3.93 gms.21.61 mm. 180 degrees

The reverse die is a little worn otherwise it is quite attractive.



Martin

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Thank you, Martin,

I agree, Probus one of the emperor, who has so many interesting and rare bust variation on his coins. 

Your coin is very special and nice too...   

Regards

Joe

[Barnaba6]

Congratulations to both Martin and Joe!  Very rare and unpublished coins indeed!

I also have them in my collection but in worse state of preservation:



 OBVERSE: IMP PROBVS P F AVG
 REVERSE: SALVS AVG
 BUST TYPE: E2 (BASTIEN'S CLASSIFICATION)
 FIELD / EXERGUE MARKS: -/V/-//XXI
 WEIGHT 4.38g / AXIS: 6h / WIDTH 21-22mm
 RIC 748 VAR. (E2 BUST UNLISTED)
 ALFOLDI 065 / - (UNLISTED)
 COLLECTION NO. 389

 OBVERSE: VIRTVS PROBI AVG
 REVERSE: PROVIDENT AVG
 BUST TYPE: F5
 FIELD / EXERGUE MARKS: -/Q//XXI
 WEIGHT 4.39g / AXIS: 12h / WIDTH 21-22mm
 RIC 722 VAR. (UNLISTED WITH F5 BUST AND OFFICINA "Q")
 ALFOLDI 053 / - UNLISTED
 COLLECTION NO. 762
 ONLY 2ND SPECIMEN OF THIS TYPE IN THE WORLD KNOWN TO ME (the other being in M. Griffith's collection)
 NOTE: SAME OBVERSE DIE AS MY COIN NO. 1039 (ALSO AN INEDITUM)

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HI, Barnabas,

Sorry the late answere, but I was on the way a few days.....

Thank you your posts, great coins indeed.

I recognized them, in your Gallery. 

Regards

 Joe

[SEstiot]

Rare Probus from Siscia, Bust not in RIC and Not in Alföldi !

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-146830

112 Probus (276-282 A.D.), AE-Antoninianus, RIC V-II 748var., Siscia, SALVS AVG, Bust-Gvar./E2, -/V//XXI, Salus standing left, Bust Not in RIC !!! and No Not in Alfoldi !!!, Rare !!!,
avers: IMP PROBVS P F AVG, Radiate, helmeted, cuirassed bust left, holding spear and shield, seen from back, shield in front and a spear pointing forward. (Gvar./E2)
reverse: SALVS AVG, Salus standing right, feeding serpent in arms.
exergue: -/V//XXI, diameter: 21,2-22,0mm, weight: 3,57g, axis: 6h,
mint: Siscia, 7th emission, date: 280 A.D., ref: RIC V-II 748var., Bust not in RIC, Alföldi type 65 n° Not in !!!; Rare!!!,

Q.

Sorry to react very late to this post. Yes, Joe, you are right: this Siscia type is absent from Alföldi's corpus (Alf. 65, -), but it is to be found in some quantities (6 registred ex. included yours), most in private hands. Yours. S. Estiot

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Many thanks, Sylviane, never late

Regards

Joe