Help ID my Ancient Greek or Roman coins

[Beth T]

  [b/]I have two identical, what I believe are ancient Roman or Greek coins. They both weigh approx. 11 grams, and are 49.2 mm or 1 15/16" in size. The obverse is facing right, the man has hair like a lion and his ear isn't showing and he has a very straight nose & his look is not stern.

The reverse has a male sitting sideways to the left on a chair w/his right arm holding a spear and the left arm out - stretched to edge of coin. He has hair that looks long and may have in braids. He is nude from waist up. Wearing a robe waist down to ankles. Just below the center and to far left nearer the edge of coin is an unidentified object. It could be his helmet?

The letters on the reserve vertically on right side are as follows:
 
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  Thank you[/b]

[rover1.3]

The fact they are identical in all aspects is not a good sign. Plus, the weights are off normal.
Both modern forgeries, I am afraid... They imitate issues of Alexander III, the Great.

[Enodia]

i'm sorry to say i agree with rover.
if these coins were authentic, the they would be half that diameter but 50% heavier.

~ Peter

[Lloyd Taylor]

...if these coins were authentic, the they would be half that diameter but 50% heavier.

...or the same diameter and 4 times heavier... a dekadrachm! 

[Enodia]

the eternal optimist!  (lol)

[Lloyd Taylor]

the eternal optimist!  (lol)

... a fake deka has to be worth more than a fake tetra? Right? 

[Beth T]

[b/]I have two identical, what I believe are ancient Roman or Greek coins. They both weigh approx. 11 grams, and are 49.2 mm or 1 15/16" in size. The obverse is facing right, the man has hair like a lion and his ear isn't showing and he has a very straight nose & his look is not stern.

The reverse has a male sitting sideways to the left on a chair w/his right arm holding a spear and the left arm out - stretched to edge of coin. He has hair that looks long and may have in braids. He is nude from waist up. Wearing a robe waist down to ankles. Just below the center and to far left nearer the edge of coin is an unidentified object. It could be his helmet?

The letters on the reserve vertically on right side are as follows:


Sorry to post again. I didn't know how to remove pics that were too large.  After I previewed the 1st time and tried to remove and add smaller pics, it wouldn't let me. Then the pic w/obverse didn't upload. I'm sure it was pilot error.

Forgive me, I am a newbie to your site.

[Beth T]

I posted a second time with the pictures of both the obverse and reverse.  Would you care to take a look again.

Also,  do you think these are silver or just junk?

Thanks again.
 

[Enodia]

at that size and weight, i'm thinking it is plated.

~ Peter

[Beth T]

I just used my silver acid and it's junk.  Anyone know how they get the patina so dark?  I soaked this in lemon juice and lightly scrubbed with a toothbrush for days to get just enough of the black off, so it wouldn't look like a black blob in a photograph. 

Thank goodness they were free.


Thank you to all of you for your expertise and Happy New Year!   

BTW, what happened to the Mayan Apocalypse?  I'm still waiting.....
 

[areich]

I have merged the two threads.