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Offline Nick S2

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12 Caesars - Galba and Nero Denarius - Right or Wrong?
« on: August 04, 2021, 03:53:38 pm »
Hi all
I'm hoping someone can help  :) I've 8 of the 12, 6 from reputable dealers (Augustus, Tiberius, Titus, Domitian, Vespasian and Vitellius). The Nero was from [Removed by Admin] a good while ago and the Galba, also from [Removed by Admin], arrived today from a seller not on the 'list' or known elsewhere.  I always doubted the Nero and still not sure but after going down the rabbit hole of trying to check it out I also spotted on here that this type of Galba has been the subject of fakes. I apologise for the photos - they are about as good as I can get! Can anyone confirm either way for both please. Thanks in advance...Nick

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Re: 12 Caesars - Galba and Nero Denarius - Right or Wrong?
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2021, 11:45:40 pm »
Can you tell us the weights?

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Re: 12 Caesars - Galba and Nero Denarius - Right or Wrong?
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2021, 01:32:48 am »
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Re: 12 Caesars - Galba and Nero Denarius - Right or Wrong?
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2021, 02:28:47 am »
Apologies Arados for posting about two coins (and the mention of an auction site)  :)

So, just with the Galba coin. I think it's right but will give way to any thoughts otherwise. I think I need to invest in some proper scales - on basic digital kitchen scales, it's coming up as 3g so I don't know how much over this it is. Thank you Pete.


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Re: 12 Caesars - Galba and Nero Denarius - Right or Wrong?
« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2021, 08:01:29 am »
Quote from: Nick S2 on August 05, 2021, 02:28:47 am
Apologies Arados for posting about two coins (and the mention of an auction site)  :)

So, just with the Galba coin. I think it's right but will give way to any thoughts otherwise. I think I need to invest in some proper scales - on basic digital kitchen scales, it's coming up as 3g so I don't know how much over this it is. Thank you Pete.

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Offline Nick S2

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Re: 12 Caesars - Galba and Nero Denarius - Right or Wrong?
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2021, 12:59:28 pm »
Ordered, thank you. Any thoughts on the Galba denarius?

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Re: 12 Caesars - Galba and Nero Denarius - Right or Wrong?
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2021, 02:32:27 pm »
It l-o-o-k-s OK, though not a fan of its roundness and the way some of the legend approaches the rim; being "in hand" is a lot better than being "in scan". That said, it should react-that is, turn gray-to a q-tipped dab of 14K Gold test acid (green cap). If the Silver is too high a grade the reaction won't happen easily, or at all-what the acid is reacting to is the debasement in the Silver. Try it on an old Roosevelt dime...

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Re: 12 Caesars - Galba and Nero Denarius - Right or Wrong?
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2021, 02:56:32 pm »
Thank you so much. I think silver testing at this stage for me may be beyond my skills but trawling through the site for much of the day I've learnt quite a lot - I'm seeing a lot of details around the very edge of the hairline and parts of the face that are quite detailed, they're not really clear on my pics but would hint at it not being a cast. I was originally dreading someone saying, yep, that's fake 109, you can tell from the...etc.
For anyone still reading - I've collected Roman coins with no focus for almost 30 years and have been ticking off the emperors on a poster I've had for quite a while - great fun. It's only in the last year or two I've made an effort with the twelve and know that Galba isn't cheap but I'd convinced myself before I paid - of course the doubt creeps in when it arrives and you research after! Hindsight eh?! Any further reassurance welcome  :)

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Re: 12 Caesars - Galba and Nero Denarius - Right or Wrong?
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2021, 03:49:49 pm »
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Re: 12 Caesars - Galba and Nero Denarius - Right or Wrong?
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2021, 01:33:32 pm »
For what it's worth your collecting does have many a year on me but as far as experience goes in  collecting we are probably of a similar disposition and having been burnt many times with regards to buying duds on afore mentioned Internet sites, infact I was watching the very one you purchased in this thread, I have learnt the hard way that if you would like to take your collection up a notch you are much better buying for reputable sources such as the auctions in the forum here and the shop. I hope you have managed to avoid many duds and you are able to validate the Galba denarius :)

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Re: 12 Caesars - Galba and Nero Denarius - Right or Wrong?
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2021, 05:41:02 pm »
Many thanks for your reply, it's very much appreciated. I used to specialise in Egyptian antiquities (18th Dynasty faience and Third Intermediate Period shabtis) but not as much these days due to the price hikes in recent years at auction. It's very true that one becomes very knowledgeable over a long period of time! I've always had a soft spot for Roman silver and have visited fairs and dealers and reputable websites in my hunt, I've been mostly lucky (I think!!). On a rare coin trawl of the said site the Galba seemed too good to be true hence my concern after the panic buy! I think I'm over it but will take to a local dealer to check for sure. I'll let you know. I think when coins are as worn as this fakery is harder to hide...unless you have the long term knowledge that experience brings. All the best, Nick.

 

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