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The Members' Gallery => Topic started by: Anaximander on July 19, 2021, 03:01:30 pm
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:star: Announcing a new gallery: Medieval Coins in the Christian A. Thomsen Collection :star:
Yes, this is a play on the collection and the book (Medieval Coins in the Christian J. Thomsen Collection, by Kristian Erslev, Attic Books, NY, 1992). That title was previously published as Catalogue de la collection de monnaies de feu Christian Jurgensen Thomsen, part two (1873).
My medieval coin collection follows just a handful of regions within Europe and related issues in Crusader lands. Coins date from around 800 AD to 1600 AD, and only consists of hammered coinage.
Links to this gallery... (updated Feb. 2022)
|Anglo-Gallic (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=7578) The English kings and lords in France.
|British (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=7577) Anglo-Saxon, Viking, and English (Norman, Plantagenet, Lancaster, York, Tudor).
|Carolingian (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=7711) Kings and lords in France, Germany, Switzerland and northern Italy in the eighth to tenth centuries.
|Crusader (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=7592) Achaia, Antioch, Athens, Cyprus, Eprius, Jerusalem, Cyprus, Rhodes, and Tripoli.
|France (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=7701) Capetian, Feudal, and Valois.
|Nordic (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=7706) Danish and Hiberno-Norse.
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The first installment in my Medieval coinage series is British Coinage. The ancient coinage (Celtic and Romano-British) are covered in other galleries. The medieval series includes Anglo-Saxon and related issues. To make short work of it, here's a virtual tray of my British coinage, following the royal line. Click the thumbnail to see an enlarged version. There are still a couple of gaps to fill, on my want list.
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Great Virtual Tray... +++
Joe
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I love that virtual tray!
Virgil
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Just added to my member gallery: thirty Crusader coins. You will find them here (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=7592). Mints include Achaia, Antioch, Athens, Cyprus, Eprius, Jerusalem, Cyprus, Rhodes, and Tripoli.
I struggled to come up with a meaningful virtual tray, going down avenues that proved fruitless. Case in point: the Kingdom of Jerusalem at some points was in exile, and it ended as an appendage, in name only, to the Cypriot kingdom. The literature, such as the Coins of the Crusader States by Malloy, Preston, and Seltman, would do much better than I.
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Hi, Chris,
Great group of coins…😉
Congratulation 👍
Regards
Joe
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A wonderful collection of British and related coins.
I really like your virtual tray. Don't worry about the first two holes. There are only 3 known coins of Beorhtric and they are all in museums. None in private hands. Also, Aethelbald did not issue any coins in his name.
Your Anglo-Viking coin in the name of "Eltangerht" is a tremendous rarity, and I really like your Edward the Martyr penny, among others of course.
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I love your coins, especially the Crusader States, but the English coins are great, too.
Virgil
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My newest member gallery has just opened: French Medieval Coins |(here) (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=7701). It took longer than expected, but I have now uploaded my collection of French royal and feudal coins onto my Forum gallery. The gallery is best viewed using Position △.
References are something of an obsession, along with getting the best photos possible. The cornerstones of my reference material for French coinage are Jean Duplessy's Les Monnaies Royales Françaises and Les Monnaies Féodales Françaises; as well as James Roberts' The Silver Coins of Medieval France (476-1610 AD). I was able, finally, to get a copy of Faustin Poey d'Avant's three volume Monnaies Féodales de France. I still have not located a copy of Ciani, Boudeau, or Lafaurie, all of which are widely cited. C'est la vie.
My collecting ethos (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethos) is generally 'one of each' for issuers, be they kings, feudal lords, or regions. My preference is for well-struck silver coins. Silver deniers -sometimes described as denarii- predominate. I have not found obols, though it was a common denomination in the day. In the French royal coinage, I am particularly impressed by the Gros Tournois, introduced by Louis IX, Saint Louis (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174408) (1226-1270). This large-flan, weighty, and well struck silver was imitated elsewhere in Northern Europe.
I welcome feedback and corrections.
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Anaximander,
What a wonderful addition to your already wonderful gallery. I looked at every one. Great pictures and descriptions. Bravo!
Tracy
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Another medieval coin gallery: Nordic Coinage (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=7706), featuring Hiberno-Norse (Viking Ireland) and Denmark. It's a small gallery, scarcely more than a handful. It would help to attend Northern European coin shows and auctions, and to have their reference books, but both are something of a stretch at present.
Tracy: Thanks for the kind words! I wanted the gallery to be up-to-snuff, and I worked diligently on references and photography.
This week I'm off to a Spartanburg, South Carolina, coin show, only my second, but I have only the faintest hope of finding any medieval coins there. There will be probably one dealer in ancient coins. I'm hoping he picked up some good material at the New York International.
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That is a great gallery, very interesting, not to mention the rest of your pages, very nice. I am curious about the show you mention, is it worth driving there for only one dealer? I am close enough to drive there and back in a day. Now is not a good time for me budget wise, but it could be an interesting day trip even for looking. But only one dealer sounds like it could be a pretty quick stop, too.
Thanks,
Virgil
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I confess, Virgil, that it isn't a great idea to travel a long way to a show for just one dealer. I've already trimmed back my trip to just one night in Spartanburg for the Upstate South Carolina Coin Show (http://www.upstatesccoinshow.com/). Better to just work directly with the one dealer. A show like Coinex or the ANA National Money Show is a different kettle of fish.
For my part, I will be picking up a check for a past consignment (my Celtic and Eastern cultures collections) and dropping off another consignment (bye bye, Ptolemaic coins), even as I continue to build my ancient Greek and Roman (and Medieval) coin collection.
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Yeah, I had pretty much decided that already, thanks for the response. It is not quite close enough for a trip on a whim.
Cheers,
Virgil
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My Carolingian collection is now posted in its own gallery. |Medieval: Carolingian coins (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=7711). 15 coins, starting with the Frankish king Charlemagne, (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174677) 768-814 AD.
The Carolingian Empire spanned much of France, Germany, Switzerland and northern Italy in the eighth to tenth centuries.
Here we have Louis I le Pieux (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174682) (the Pious) 814-840 AD (one of my favorite coins of the group); Charles I the Bald (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174679), King of West Francia 840-877 and Emperor 875-877 AD; Pippin II (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174687), King of Aquitaine. 839-852 AD; Odo (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174685) (known as Eudes) King of West Francia. 887-898 AD; Robert I (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174689) as Marquis of Neustria. 888-922 AD (his decendents became known as the "Robertines"); Raoul (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174688), King of West Francia. 923-936 AD; Conrad the Pacific (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174680), King of Burgundy, 937-993 AD; Lothaire II (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174681), King of West Francia. 954-986 AD.
There are many monogram coins and many imitative series in Carolingian coinage. The "immobilizied type" coinage simply means that the minting carried on from one king to another with few visible changes to the coins. An example of that is a denier of Charles le Simple - Louis IV (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=174690), 898-954 AD, an immobilized type of Charles le Chauve or Charles le Simple.
The coin of Pippin (or Pépin) II is a lovely obol, my one and only of that denomination.
Here's a great article about a |hoard of Carolingian coins discovered in Poland (https://www.livescience.com/silver-coin-hoard-poland-historic-ransom.html). There is some possibility that the hoard is part of a ransom paid in 845 AD by Charles the Bald (son of Louis the Pius and grandson of Charlemagne) to the Vikings to prevent the sack of Paris. |Count Odo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odo_of_France), son of Robert the Strong, defended Paris from the Viking invasion of 885-886 and was then elected king.
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Fantastic collection.
Virgil
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I always enjoy your medieval collection... +++
Joe/Q.
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Here is an Anglo-Dane coin I just added to my Medieval gallery:
|Cnut (https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=175230)1016-1035. AR Penny (1.04 gm 20mm 4h) Quatrefoil type of Colchester; struck c. 1016-1023. Crowned & draped bust left. within quatrefoil tressure. ☩.CNVT REX ⚻NGLOr'. / Voided long cross w/ triple-crescent ends in quatrefoil tressure, pellet at centre. ☩GO-DRI-CᛖO-COL (Godric, moneyer, Colchester). While Cnut pennies are quite common, this type with this moneyer, and at this location, is uncommon.
I now have one quatrefoil penny and one pointed helmet penny of King Cnut. That just leaves the short cross type to complete the English lifetime issues. Of the Scandinavian issues (short cross and long cross) and the posthumous issues (jewel cross, arm and sceptre, and PACX), I have none, yet...
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I was surprised and pleased to get an old dealer tag with my latest auction win, a medieval hammered coin of Henry VII. I'd been seeing some of these turn up when buying at auction recently. I rarely saw that happen even 10 years ago. There's a lot more emphasis on provenance today, perhaps as a result of increased restrictions on cross-border transactions, and old dealer tags are a good way to establish pedigree.
What I found surprising is that I received five dealer tags, all tucked into the 2x2 flip, in addition to the new auction tag. Sure makes for an overstuffed flip! Reminds me of a wallet with too much stuff in it, or a passport padded with added pages. See attached. I put the tags in approximate chronological order. I can only identify one dealer out of the bunch, distinctive for being in French and typewritten. Otherwise, they are handwritten, as were most coin tags from before, like, 2010? Can anyone recollect seeing any tags of similar hand? Perhaps to put a date or name to them.
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Jean Elsen? That is Brussels, Tervurenlaan, 65 at 30km from my door !
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Uh oh ::) I've been remiss. It's been too long since I posted here. I'm getting the dread Warning: This topic has not been posted in for at least 120 days.
As I did for my gallery of ancients, I'll summarize all my acquisitions over the last year here and now, using a Virtual Tray.
Here's what I collected in my Medieval France gallery.
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Anaximander,
Great additions and a wonderful section of your gallery.
Tracy
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Thanks Tracy! I've a couple more trays to show you.
Here's my Carolingian Virtual Tray for the last year.
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I love these virtual tray presentations. I love your gallery, so varied and interesting.
Virgil
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Anaximander,
I echo Virgil H's sentiments wholeheartedly.
Tracy
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Here's the last of this year's virtual trays for my Medieval gallery. It's a smörgåsbord of Anglo-Saxon, Danish, Anglo-Gallic, and Crusader coins. It includes a couple I picked up from the shop at Forum Ancient Coins.
I spent some quality time with the coin collection over the last year, using my new digital calipers to measure maximum diameter and measuring die axis. New coins tend to already have that information, but not those acquired before sometime about a decade ago. Measurements done, I then had to propagate that data throughout: my database, my flips, and my FAC galleries. The heavy lifting is now done. Huzzah!
My heartfelt thanks, gents, for the kind comments.