Author Topic: Constantine I. Follis. Gate with dogs that bite the enemy??? (Read 4055 times)

Vadim Ancient · « **on:** August 18, 2015, 08:41:06 am »

Weight 2.91 gr

Sorry for the quality of the photo.

Gate with dogs that bite the enemy???

few dogs and enemy in this gate. Do you know such Constantine follis?

Vadim Ancient · « **Reply #1 on:** August 18, 2015, 08:47:21 am »

picture

areich · « **Reply #2 on:** August 18, 2015, 08:47:46 am »

I can't see any of these things in the pictures and have never seen them. Campgates exist with open or closed doors. It's probably like seeing pictures in clouds.

Vadim Ancient · « **Reply #3 on:** August 18, 2015, 08:51:43 am »

I will make high resolution photo and then publish. Open campgates. Dogs on the left side and enemy

Vadim Ancient · « **Reply #4 on:** August 18, 2015, 08:54:05 am »

it minted and need high resolution photo/

Galaxy · « **Reply #5 on:** August 18, 2015, 08:59:25 am »

I am pretty sure they are flaming pigs. See, the Romans set them on fire and set them loose among the enemy.........

Jochen · « **Reply #6 on:** August 18, 2015, 10:38:10 am »

It's only a flan irregularity as they often occur.

Jochen

John Anthony · « **Reply #7 on:** August 18, 2015, 11:19:17 am »

Yes, only flan irregularities. The PROVIDENTIAE AVGG and CAESS campgate types come in a number of varieties, but those varieties do not include dogs or enemies. See attached for a page from Bruck...

Vadim Ancient · « **Reply #8 on:** August 18, 2015, 02:16:45 pm »

more pictures

Vadim Ancient · « **Reply #9 on:** August 18, 2015, 02:22:08 pm »

Vadim Ancient · « **Reply #10 on:** August 18, 2015, 02:27:16 pm »

Vadim Ancient · « **Reply #11 on:** August 18, 2015, 02:40:10 pm »

1 more

Jochen · « **Reply #12 on:** August 18, 2015, 02:42:00 pm »

Please stop posting more photos. I think we don't need more photos!

Jochen

Jay GT4 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 18, 2015, 02:44:20 pm »

It's the bricks...

areich · « **Reply #14 on:** August 18, 2015, 03:13:38 pm »

I think more pictures might help. I can almost see it.

Jay GT4 · « **Reply #15 on:** August 18, 2015, 03:27:53 pm »

Quote from: areich on August 18, 2015, 03:13:38 pm

I think more pictures might help. I can almost see it.

Maybe a few scans for good measure...

areich · « **Reply #16 on:** August 18, 2015, 04:25:43 pm »

I can see a person looking out of the window and winking. Jesus?

Jay GT4 · « **Reply #17 on:** August 18, 2015, 04:44:22 pm »

Quote from: areich on August 18, 2015, 04:25:43 pm

I can see a person looking out of the window and winking. Jesus?

Rapunzel!

Vadim Ancient · « **Reply #18 on:** August 18, 2015, 06:14:41 pm »

Vadim Ancient · « **Reply #19 on:** August 18, 2015, 06:32:10 pm »

please

John Anthony · « **Reply #20 on:** August 18, 2015, 07:26:30 pm »

Vadim, these are flan irregularities, caused perhaps by an uneven strike, or die chips, or some other such phenomena. When the Romans engraved something specific, like an animal, or an enemy, they were very intentional about the depictions. When you do see animals or men, there is no guessing, no doubt - they are quite clear.

OldMoney · « **Reply #21 on:** August 19, 2015, 07:45:15 am »

Vadim,
Never lose that commendable sense of imagination of yours.
However, as a corollary, try not to lose your sense of reality either.
Enjoy this hobby in whichever way you choose. Keep having fun,

Walter

Vincent · « **Reply #22 on:** August 19, 2015, 10:23:04 am »

Wish to thank John for the illustration of all the Camp Gate variations in design. One missing is a very rare short issue of the mint city Heraclea that features 3 turrets and a star above. During the 2nd Cival War between Constantine and Licinius this mint city struck a short lived issue of the above after being over run by Constantine. Constantine had 2 turrets with a star and Licinius featured 3 turrets only with no star.

Victor C · « **Reply #23 on:** August 19, 2015, 12:25:48 pm »

Quote from: Vincent on August 19, 2015, 10:23:04 am

One missing is a very rare short issue of the mint city Heraclea that features 3 turrets and a star above.

Bruck used the Vienna collection, so presumably this type was missing.

Vadim Ancient · « **Reply #24 on:** August 19, 2015, 05:26:59 pm »

Thank you ALL for your help! I do not change my point of view, as I see it there. I'm just confused people's heads with the heads of dogs. It's too small items under the millennial patina. I think this joke with Jesus is may be real. What's Constantine I made for Christianity.. We know it. I had many such follis in my collection and collect ancient coins many years. I have athens drachm in my collection which have very small unknown details and i posted these photos here and received negative answers also but all my friends saw it on high resolution pictures. Third, I have celtic tetradrachms (Ostkelten, Typ Sattelkopfpferd, Tetradrachme) : when I research details of each lines on each coin I found very small details - lines likes similar to the standards with wolves and each very very small unvisible details said me that coins - authentic, but i have one such tetradrachm with such details among 18 others same tetradrachms.

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