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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #75 on: April 26, 2015, 07:58:30 am »
That's interesting- I always thought the obverse of these types depicted Zeus and Hera, although I guess most catalogers just assume that is the natural pairing.  I'll have to revise my gallery!

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #76 on: April 26, 2015, 08:53:22 am »
That's interesting- I always thought the obverse of these types depicted Zeus and Hera, although I guess most catalogers just assume that is the natural pairing.  I'll have to revise my gallery!

Astarte through the millennia changed names on many occasion and not surprisingly was assimilated by many other cultures. In fact her name changed so many times that i opted not to mention them all, here are a few below.


Assyrian & Babylonian - she was known has the Semitic goddess Ishtar.

Phoenicia - she was known has Anat, Baalat and later on Ashtart.

Egypt - she became known has the Egyptian deity Isis.

Greece - Astarte or Hera depending on beliefs and from which part of the empire you were situated in.

Hebrew - Ashtereth

Rome - she was often know has Aphrodite.


The ancient texts and scripts are of course open to interpretation and there still remains great uncertainty. For the time being i feel that Astarte is an appropriate name for the attribution of this type.

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #77 on: April 26, 2015, 03:08:12 pm »
Since you were posting about problems with BD on a particular coin, I thought I'd share the coin I posted on page 3 again. The two green spots on this coin were in fact BD, but I have managed to clean it up. I'm convinced the remaining green spots are mineral deposits. Unfortunately, some of the patina was removed, as you can see on the reverse, where the bare bronze shows through. But I really had no choice. Hopefully those spots will darken naturally over time.

I felt very strongly that this coin should be saved - other than the two spots of BD, it's a handsome example of the type.

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #78 on: April 27, 2015, 08:45:05 am »
The two green spots on this coin were in fact BD, but I have managed to clean it up. I'm convinced the remaining green spots are mineral deposits. Unfortunately, some of the patina was removed, as you can see on the reverse, where the bare bronze shows through. But I really had no choice. Hopefully those spots will darken naturally over time.

I felt very strongly that this coin should be saved - other than the two spots of BD, it's a handsome example of the type.

I am really pleased you decided to treat your coin and remove the BD, it would have been a shame if it had been left to succumb to the disease.  

Also you have managed to improve the quality of your photography and captured your coin in a whole new light, showing a deep brown patina with specs of orange showing through. Good strike and clear Aradian era date.

  


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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #79 on: May 19, 2015, 03:28:59 pm »
I have been searching for this combination of era date and Phoenician letters for quite some time now, so when i spotted this coin with its wonderful patina and very unusual die axis of 2h (60 degrees), i just had to have it. All the published coins with the same era date have a die axis of 12h (0 degrees).

Final attribution;

Phoenicia, Arados 140-139 B.C

AE 16.36mm (Thickness 2.72mm), weight 3.73g, die axis = 2h (60 degrees), denomination C.

Obverse: Braided, bearded head of Zeus right, border of dots.

Reverse: Tripple pointed ram of galley left, Phoenician letters nun (N) & aleph (´) above, Aradian era date 96 below.

Duyrat 2005 Pg.63 No.2167-2172.

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #80 on: May 31, 2015, 03:30:25 pm »
Duyrat SÉRIE 6  “The short lived series”


This fascinating series has motivated me into doing a more in-depth study that will hopefully help clear up a few earlier mistakes made by well known scholars and bring together all the known specimens of this type from the various collections around the world.


To help understand the coins of this period the list below explains the various Aradian coinage that would have been in circulation during the minting of SÉRIE 6.


SÉRIE 3;  No coins produced between the years 73-83 (187-176 B.C) and discontinued year 84 (or no other specimens found to prove otherwise).

SÉRIE 4;  If we disregard year 79 & 80 due to uncertain dating then no coins were produced between 76-83 (184-176 B.C), this series was discontinued in the year 85 (or no other specimens found to prove otherwise).

SÉRIE 5;  No coins produced between the years 77-85 (183-174 B.C), minting restarted in the year 86 (These coins were mass produced and ended in the year 208 or 52-51 B.C).

SÉRIE 6;  Only produced during years 73-74 (187-185 B.C).

SÉRIE 7;  Production started in the year 84 (176-175 B.C).

SÉRIE V & 8; Production started in the year 86 (174-173 B.C).


Using the list above we can with great accuracy work out that the Aradian mint ceased all coin production in the year 75 (185-184 B.C) and restarted it in year 84 (176-175 B.C).

What ultimately piqued my curiosity was SÉRIE 6 and the apparent discontinuing of this particular type ?

Why go through the trouble and cost of having your engraver design a new coin only to end production the year after it started. Were the dies destroyed in a fire or some other unforeseeable accident, did the goddess Tyche fall out of favour. Maybe the engraver died suddenly or met an untimely end, leaving then an opening for a new engraver to design the next generation of Aradian coins (possibly SÉRIE 7 which went into production year 84).

I meticulously went through all of my available literature on Aradian history but found nothing to explain why minting ceased. The probability of finding out the true reason for the abrupt end of SÉRIE 6 will most likely remain a mystery and will for me leave an air of intrigue surrounding it´s early demise.



Babelon in his 1893 publication “Catalogue Des Monnaies Grecques - Cypre & Phénicia” describes this type as follows;

Au droite - Buste tourelé de Tyché, les cheveux nattés, et portant une palme sur l'épaule gauche. Grénetis au pourtour.
                  Crowned bust of Tyche with pleated hair, with palm over shoulder. Beading around circumference.

Au revers - Proue de navire, à droite, ornée de l'aplustre que soutient une longue stylis ; en haut, dans le champ, le monogram. AP entre les lettres ; à l'exerque, la date.
                   Ship's prow (bow) right, adorned with aplustre that supports long stylized rudder, in field above monogram AP between letters, in exerque date.


956. an 75 (year 75), AE16 - Phoenician letters ? & ?, Hémi-Chalque, 4gr. 52.

957. an 75 (year 75) ?, AE18 - Phoenician letters Taw & Ayin, Hémi-Chalque, 3gr. 90.  PL. XXIII Fig.11.

958. an 75 (year 75), AE17 - Phoenician letters Qoph, Aleph & Mem, Hémi-Chalque, 3gr. 98.


Notes;

Babelon strangely dated this series to year 75 (185-184 B.C), one can clearly make out on No.957 the year -NNNhV before the date runs of flan or ends, if this coin was era date 75 it would appear as such II III-NNNhV. However for Babelon 956 i think we need to be more open minded, the coin is really worn. Even at maximum image magnification i can´t make out whether the coin is of era date 73,74 or 75.

He also states that No.958 was minted with Phoenician letters Qoph, Aleph & Mem, i believe this to be a misinterpretation on his part. If you look closely at my coin titled HM (2228b) and concentrate purely on the AP monogram, it does appear to resemble the letter Aleph.

Babelon made a slight error when describing this types reverse, he wrote the following, “Ship's prow right, adorned with the aplustre”.

The aplustre or aphlaston was the upward curving part of an ancient warship found at the stern (rear) of the ship.  



Rouvier in his 1900 publication “Numismatique des villes de la Phenicie” describes this type as follows;

Au droite - Tête de Tyché tourelée, à droite, les cheveux relevés en chignon, avec une épaisse natte descendant sur la nuque, et portant une palme sur l'épaule gauche. Grènetis au pourtour.
                  Crowned head of Tyche right, hair in a chignon (bun) with a thick braiding down the neck, palm over her left shoulder. Beading around the circumference.

Au revers - Poupe de navire, à droite, pourvue de l'aplustre suporté par la stylis, et du gouvernail. En haut, dans le champ, le monogram. AP  entre les lettres taw et ayin. Au dessous de cette derniére se voit le manche de gouvernail. A l'exerque, la date. Grénetis au pourtour.

                   Stern of ship right, aplustre with stylized rudder, in field above monogram AP between letters taw and ayin. On the deck rudder. handle, date in exerque, beading around the circumference.


141. an 73 (year 73), AE 17 - Phoenician letters Taw & Ayin, Hémi-chalque, 4,10 gr. Ma collection.

142. an 73 (year 73), AE 17 - Phoenician letters Nun & Ayin, Hémi-chalque, 3,90 gr. Ma collection.
        an 73 (year 73), AE 18 - Phoenician letters Nun & Ayin, Hémi-chalque,    ?   gr. Collection de Lischine, á Beyrouth. (Image in catalogue - planche Z`, 18)

143. an 75 (year 75), AE 16 - Phoenician letters Taw & Ayin, Hémi-chalque, 4,52 gr. Babelon: Perses Achéménides, (Babelon No.956)
        an 75 (year 75), AE 18 - Phoenician letters Taw & Ayin, Hémi-chalque, 3,90 gr. Babelon: Collection du Dr P. Schroeder, á Beyrouth. (Babelon 957)


Notes;

Rouvier wrote that No.142 AE17 & AE18 had Phoenician letters Nun & Ayin on them, an honest mistake. When studying the AE18 coin closely i could clearly make out the letter Taw there Rouvier would have the letter Nun.

For arguments sake i have placed No.142 AE18 under era date 73 and given it a new number based on Duyrat´s catalogue list (2233d).

In regards to both Rouvier coins numbered 143 and dated year 75, these were later studied by Duyrat in her publication Arados Hellénistique and placed rightly as year 73.
        


Duyrat in her 2005 publication “ Arados Hellénistique - Étude historique et monétaire describes this type as follows;

Cette petite série portant le monogramme AP est incontestablement aradian. Les dates que je lis sont différentes de celles répertoriées par E. Babelon ( an 75 pour tous les exemplaires ) et J. Rouvier (an 75 sur l`exemplaire Babylon no 957 du cabinet de Paris.

This small series with AP monogram is undoubtedly Aradian. My interperatation of the dates is different from those listed by E. Babelon (year 75 for all examples) and J. Rouvier (year 75 for Babelon No. 957 of the Paris office).

Au droite - Tête de Tyché à droite, palme dans le champ droit. Grènetis.
                   Head of Tyche right, palm in the right field, beading.

Au revers - Poupe de navire à gauche, monogramme d encadré de lettres phéniciennes dans le champ en haut, date en phénicien à l’exergue.
                   Stern of ship left, Monogram with Phoenician letters on both sides in the top field, Phoenician date in exerque.




Below is an updated list of SÉRIE 6 coins totalling 22 specimens.


 An 73 (187/6), ‘, D
2221  *D1-R1, Collection W. Moore, New York.
2222  *D2-R2, Paris, BNF, Vogüé no 270. 4,00 g, 16,7 mm, 12 h.
2223  *D3-R3, Collection A. Ronde, Paris. 22,1 mm, 12 h.
2223b Stockholm, collection Martin Rowe, No.KO. 3,51 g, 16,38 mm, 12 h.  

           M, Y ?
2224 *D4-R4, Paris, BNF, Babelon no 956. 4,50 g, 15,7 mm, 12 h.  (Babelon No.956)
2225 D4?-R5, Paris, BNF, Babelon no 958. 3,98 g, 17,0 mm, 12 h.  (Babelon No.958)
2226 *D5-R4, New York, ANS 1944 100 70561 Newell. 3,98 g, 16,5 mm, 12 h.
2227 D5-R6, Berlin, SM, Löbbecke (1906). 4,79 g, 17,5 mm, 12 h.
2228 *D6-R7, New York, ANS 1944 100 70562 Newell. 3,78 g, 16,0 mm, 12 h.
2228b  Stockholm, collection Martin Rowe, No.HM. 4,27 g, 16,53 mm, 12 h.
2228c  Ma collection, Rouvier 141. 3,90 g, 17mm, ? h.

            ‘, T

2229 *D7-R8, New York, ANS 1944 100 70564 Newell. 3,95 g, 17,0 mm, 12 h.
2230 *D8-R8, New York, ANS 1944 100 70565 Newell. 3,41 g, 16,1 mm, 12 h.
2231 D8?-R9, Berlin, SM, Löbbecke (1906). 5,05 g, 16,2 mm, 12 h.
2232 *D9-R10, NewYork, ANS1944 100 70563 Newell. 4,11g, 15,9 mm, 12 h.
2233 *D10-R11, Paris, BNF, Babelon no 957. 3,86 g, 12,8 mm, 12 h. (Babelon No.957)
2233b  Stockholm, collection Martin Rowe, No.GC. 3,45 g, 17,59 mm, 12 h.
2233c  Ma collection, Rouvier 141. 4,10 g, 17mm, ? h.
2233d  D14-R15, Collection de Lischine, á Beyrouth. 18mm,  ? g. (Rouvier 142)

An 74 (186/5), ‘, T
2234  *D11?-R12, Londres, BM, BMC 103. 4,23 g, 16,1 mm, 12 h.
2235  *D12-R13, Beyrouth, AUB Museum, no 36. 3,90g, 16mm, 12 h.
2236  D13-R14, Collection Lindgren, no 1340, date hors champ. 4,10 g.

My thanks and gratitude to BNF & Frédérique Duyrat.

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #81 on: July 16, 2015, 02:02:46 pm »
“Unusual interpretation of the letter Heth”

I was in the process of uploading my latest Aradian coin dated 109 with Phoenician letters mem & sadhe and at the same time hoping to confirm the lettering on what as until now been a very uncertain section of coins from Duyrat Série 5, numbered 1872-1884. But after further study prompted by a niggling doubt, it turns out that my first assumption was correct and the lettering was indeed mem & sadhe.

Looking closely at the published coins in Duyrat 2005 there is one coin in particular that could have been Phoenician letters heth & sadhe and is numbered 1873 on page 400.


Final attribution;

Phoenicia, Arados 151-150 B.C

AE 17.08mm (Thickness 2.36mm), weight 3.52g, die axis = 2h (60 degrees), denomination C.

Obverse: Braided, bearded head of Zeus right, border of dots.

Reverse: Tripple pointed ram of galley left, Phoenician letters mem (M) & sadhe (TS) above, Aradian era date 109 below.


An 109 (151/0), P ?, H ? & M (Now confirmed M & TS)

1872      D74-R87, Berlin, SM, 10142. 3,11 g, 15,8 mm, 12 h.
1873      D74-R87, New York, ANS 1944 100 70594 Newell. 3,66 g, 15,6 mm, 12 h. !
1874      D75-R88, Paris, BNF, H. Seyrig Y28883,27. 3,05 g, 17,8 mm, 12 h.
1875      D75-R89, Londres, BM, BMC 118. 3,92 g, 15,9 mm, 12 h.
1876      D75-R90, Milan, collection Di Brera no 3577. 3,33 g, 12 h.
1877      D75-R91, Beyrouth, AUB Museum, no 48. 4,30 g, 18 mm, 12 h.
1878      D76-R92, collection A. Ronde, Paris. 17,2 mm, 12 h.
1879      D77-R93, collection A. Ronde, Paris. 17,4 mm, 12 h.
1880      D78-R94, collection particulière, Paris.
1881      D79-R95, Paris, BNF, Babelon no 980. 4,09 g, 18,8 mm, 12 h.
1882      D80-R96, New York, ANS 1944 100 70595 Newell. 2,91 g, 16,4 mm, 12 h.
1883      D81-R97, Berlin,SM,Löbbecke(1906).3,34g,15,9mm, 12 h.
1884      D82-R98, NewYork,ANS199254611Lindgren.2,07g, 17,0 mm, 12 h.
1875b    D83-R99, Stockholm, collection Martin Rowe. 3,52 g, 17,08 mm, 2 h.

At first glance my coin (bottom) appears to be heth & sadhe, it is only when zooming in that one can determine the letters true identity.

On the left Heth as it is normally written and on the right the engravers unusual interpretation of the letter Mem.

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #82 on: July 17, 2015, 09:17:35 am »
I certainly would have thought mem + sadhe. It is still  looks different from the black and white example you're comparing it to.  Still, you have the coin in hand so I'm sure you can determine which it is. 

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #83 on: July 17, 2015, 04:03:11 pm »
I certainly would have thought mem + sadhe. It is still  looks different from the black and white example you're comparing it to.  Still, you have the coin in hand so I'm sure you can determine which it is.  

Thanks for giving me the benefit of the doubt Nick.  ;D

I´m afraid your right, the only way to see for sure which combination of letters are truly hidden under the sand and crud is by examining the coin under a magnifying glass. Below are some close-up shots which will hopefully show why i changed my opinion from heth to mem.
 

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #84 on: July 19, 2015, 02:07:43 pm »
An extremely difficult coin to date, the Phoenician era date was eroded to an extent that a collector who does not know or has studied the Phoenician alphabet would have trouble seeing anything at all. I managed this by studying closely the subtle iconographic changes with the various known coins of this type and by using my knowledge of the Aradian dating system. Happily after many hours of close examination under the magnifying glass and a really painful stiff neck, i was able to date the coin as year 38 (see top image).

Final attribution;

Phoenicia, Arados 222-221 B.C

AE 18.05mm (Thickness 2.51mm), weight 4.82g, die axis = 11h (330 degrees), denomination C.

Obverse: Turreted head of Tyche right.

Reverse: Prow of galley left with (Ἀθηνᾶ Πρόμαχος) Athena figurehead fighting left with shield and spear, AP monogram above ?, border of dots. Aradian era date 38.



Reattributed to Karne 4th March 2017.

https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2015/07/19/a-pain-in-the-neck/

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #85 on: August 11, 2015, 02:17:46 pm »
"And then there was four"

Almost a year ago i posted a coin of extreme rarity, at the time only two other specimens had been documented. I remember thinking to myself that i shouldn't expect to see another coin of this type any time soon. Well that probability was higher than i anticipated, lo and behold i was completely wrong. I now own 50% of this type after spotting the coin below for sale quite recently. I am as you can imagine ecstatic over my latest find and pleased to be able to share this wonderful coin with you all.

Here is a reminder of what i wrote in my previous post from one year ago.

Era date 208 (CH) was as far as we know the last year these coins were produced and is the only coin to bare Greek lettering instead of the usual Phoenician dating system found on earlier coins. One can almost sense the Aradians despair while they attempted to hold on to their traditions, hence the Phoenician letter qoph to the left above the battering ram.

Aradian era date 208:

CH (52/1 B.C), Qoph

2184 *D265-R361, Berlin, SM, Löbbecke (1906). 2,68 g, 14,1 mm, 12 h.
2185 *D266-R362, New York, ANS 1944 100 70699 Newell. 2,42 g, 13,7 mm, 12 h.
2185b *D267-R363, Martin Rowe collection, AR-No.ZTR 208Q12-C (IA). 2,85 g, 14,02 mm, 12 h.
2185c *D268-R364, Martin Rowe collection, AR-No.ZTR 208Q12-C (LE). 2,85 g, 14,26 mm, 12 h. (Image below)


https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2015/08/11/and-then-there-was-four/

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #86 on: August 18, 2015, 10:35:12 pm »
One of the joys of collecting is encountering a real collector who can appreciate the fascinating story of a coin to which most would pay little or no attention!  Thank you for the pleasure!

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #87 on: August 19, 2015, 04:02:31 am »
One of the joys of collecting is encountering a real collector who can appreciate the fascinating story of a coin to which most would pay little or no attention!  Thank you for the pleasure!

My ambitions are to enlighten the readers and possibly create an interest in an area of collecting that is mainly overlooked. There is a story behind every coin that needs to be told, hopefully future generations of collectors will be influenced by my studies of Phoenician coins (don’t worry i am not planning on going anywhere just yet). In the meantime i will continue to unearth previously unpublished coins of the region so as to expand our knowledge of these facinating coins. I know there are those who show little interest for low quality bronzes, i personally like the challenge of finding out what´s lurking under the grime and deciphering the ancient language of the Phoenicians.

Who knows i might one day find time and patience to publish my works !

Thanks for your support Mac.

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #88 on: September 01, 2015, 01:22:25 pm »
I seem to be on a winning streak at the moment. This is only the third coin of its type with control marks aleph and nun, dated 102 (158-157 B.C. I tried really hard to track down the other two coins of the same era date but could not locate them in BNF or ANS.  

An 102 (158/7), ’, N
1840    D49-R59, New York, ANS 1992 54 530 Lindgren. 4,29 g, 15,1 mm, 12 h.
1841    D50-R60, Paris, BNF, retirée des incertaines. 3,92 g, 16,1 mm, 12 h.
1841b  D?-R?, Stockholm, Martin Rowe collection, 3.10 g, 15,49 mm, 1 h.

Final attribution.

Phoenicia, Arados 158-157 B.C

AE 15.49mm (Thickness 2.32mm), weight 3.10g, die axis = 1h (30 degrees), denomination C.

Obverse: Braided, bearded head of Zeus right, border of dots.

Reverse: Tripple pointed ram of galley left, Phoenician control letters nun (N) and aleph (´) above, Aradain era date 102 below.

https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2015/09/01/winning-streak/

https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2015/09/01/ar-no-ztr-102n1-c-lk/

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #89 on: September 02, 2015, 01:32:15 pm »
Congratulations on finding so many varieties! Yes, you should eventually publish - The Coinage of Arados, in 10 volumes!  ;)

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #90 on: September 28, 2015, 01:50:28 am »
So many nice coin Arados ,   +++

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #91 on: December 15, 2015, 01:44:02 pm »
Duyrat 2005 / SÉRIE 7

There are four coins numbered 2290-2293 belonging to SÉRIE 7, all are extremely difficult to confirm in respect to era dates and were cautiously attributed by Frédérique Duyrat as year 90 (170-169 B.C) and 92 (168-167 B.C).

I cannot offer my opinion regarding coins 2291 & 2292, purely because the images were not included in Duyrat 2005, i do however suspect that were minted year 92. As for 2293, this coin shows partial damage and deterioration to the reverse flan which obscures the makers marks. The era date does appear to be year 92.

Finally we are left with 2290, a very close die match with my recent acquisition as you will see from provided images. Although the date runs slightly of flan, i am convinced that both 2290 and my coin were also minted during Aradian year 92 (168-167 B.C).

If i am correct in my assumption that 2291,2292 & 2293 are indeed from the same Aradian year, then a revision of Duyrat´s catalogue numbers would appear as below.

The inclusion of my coin would now bring the total known specimens to five and see era date 90 (170-169 B.C) removed as an option.

Hopefully i have alleviated to some degree the uncertainty surrounding this particular era date.


An 92 (168/167), dans le champ droit : B ; sous le bras du dieu : Q ; au-dessus du bras du dieu : B

2290    *D20-R41, Berlin, SM, Imhoof-Blumer (1900). 7,24 g, 19,9 8mm. (See image below)  

2291      D20-R41, Berlin, SM, Friedlaender (1861). 5,63 g, 20,8 mm. (No image)

2292      D20-R42, New York, ANS 1947 97 567. 5,92g, 22,1 mm. (No image)

2293    *D21-R43, New York, ANS 1944 100 70579 Newell. 7,45 g, 21,0 mm. (Damaged flan)

2293b  *D?-R41, Stockholm, Collection Martin Rowe. 7.80 g, 19.02mm. (See image below)


https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2015/12/14/ar-no-tpap-qbr1-b-mb/

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #92 on: January 09, 2016, 11:02:57 am »
This is just extraordinary, the more coins i collect from my preferred collecting area the more i realise that i have just started to scratch the service.

The coin i would like to share with you today is no exception, it just happens to be the first coin documented dated year 49 with Phoenician letters kaph & beth on either side of the city monogram AP (Arados).

I only know of a handful of year 49´s that have been published, they have the following monograms.

uncertain / AP / aleph  x1
daleph / AP / ayin  x2
taw / AP / ayin  x5

My coin is nearing VF with good center strike, this made the identification process quite simple.

Please follow provided link for additional photos.

https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2016/01/09/just-extraordinary/

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #93 on: January 09, 2016, 11:38:42 am »
It almost looks like the Beth is part of the prow.

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #94 on: January 09, 2016, 01:00:17 pm »
It almost looks like the Beth is part of the prow.

Have you been reading my thoughts Nick !

The letter beth does appear to overlap what should be part of the decking. An oversight on behalf of the engraver or was it intentional.

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #95 on: January 09, 2016, 01:34:44 pm »
I'm thinking deliberate, and a nice touch, too.

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #96 on: April 10, 2016, 03:33:27 am »
Rare era date 86

I recently added a second era date 86 to my Aradian collection with the following references, Duyrat Pg.56 No.1777-1783 / HGC10: Pg.24 No.88. This increases the total amount of this particular era date to 9 individual coins, the list below gives details of the collections they reside in and die information i.e D8 (obverse) R10 (reverse). The die numbering was allotted to these coins in Frédérique Duyrat´s publication of 2005 called “Arados Hellénistique - Étude historique et monétaire”.

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1  (1777) D8-R9,NewYork,ANS000099931859.2,75g,14,3mm, 12 h.

2  (1778) D8-R10, Milan, collection Di Brera no 3600. 2,33 g, 12 h.

3  (1779) D8?-R11, New York, ANS 1992 54 529 Lindgren. 4,46 g, 16,7 mm, 12 h.

4  (1780) D9-R11?, Londres, BM, BMC 104, pl. 3, 13. 3,09 g, 17,0 mm, 12 h.

5  (1781) D10-R12, Paris, BNF, L. De Clercq no 316. 3,10 g, 16,9 mm, 12 h.

6  (1782) D11-R13, collection A. Ronde, Paris. 17,3 mm, 12 h.

7  (1783) D11-R14, Munich, no 29. 3,21 g, 12 h.

8           *D8-R10, Stockholm, Collection Martin Rowe. 2.97 g, 16,46 mm, 1 h. Image 1

9           *D10-R12, Stockholm, Collection Martin Rowe. 3.65 g, 15.94 mm, 12 h. Image 2


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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #97 on: April 10, 2016, 09:10:20 am »
Again Two nice coin Arados :)

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #98 on: April 17, 2016, 08:54:30 am »
Tyche Seated left on Ships Rudder

This diverse and fascinating series were minted during the latter days of Aradian autonomy and continued until co-emperors Lucius Versus / Marcus Aurelius´s reign ended in 169 A.D. The obverse of this coin was changed on numerous occasions and included the following deity´s or Emperors; Astarte, Tyche, Nero, Domitian, Trajan and has mentioned previously Lucius Versus and Marcus Aurelius.

So has not to confuse the reader i have decided to concentrate purely on coins depicting Astarte and will return to the other types at a later date. I suspect that for the majority of you this will be the first time you have seen a coin of this type, they are extremely rare and only occasionally presented for sale.

On the obverse we can see Astarte´s veiled bust with chignon and flowing hair to the base of her neck.

The reverse shows the goddess Tyche naked to the waist and seated left on a ships rudder. She has her right hand placed on the tiller and holds in her left a cornucopia with bunch of grapes. Phoenician letter gimel (Λ) can be seen below the rudder in left field with AΡAΔIΩN (of the Aradians) bottom (apart from coin 3 in collage).

Coins 1, 2 & 4 were minted in year 297 or 38/9 A.D.

Coin 3 is currently the oldest of this type found to date and was minted in year 284 or 25/6 A.D.  

Coin 5 was minted in year 307 or 48/9 A.D.

And finally coin 6 with uncertain date of flan.


Note that coins 2 & 6 both bare a Tyche countermark (see image below).


I have placed the coins in order of era date;

AR 284  ∆ΠΣ (25-26 A.D)

1. D1-R1, Paris BNF (btv1b8535752t).  (Collage no.3)

AR 297  ΣϘZ (37-38 A.D)

2. D2-R2, Paris BNF (btv1b8535673n).  (Collage no.2)
3. D2-R3, Paris BNF (btv1b85356742).  (Collage no.4)
4. D3-R2, Martin Rowe collection, Stockholm, AR-No.ATRCG 297/ΣϘZ12 (NC).  (Collage no.1)

AR 307  TZ (48-49 A.D)

5. D4-R4, Paris BNF (btv1b85356816).  (Collage no.5)

AR ? Uncertain (? A.D)

6. D5-R5, London BMC (AN01477587_001), BMC Pl.V.12.  (Collage no.6)


https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2016/04/17/ar-no-atrcg-297σϙz%EF%BF%BC12-nc/

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Re: Phoenicia Arados - Bronze
« Reply #99 on: April 23, 2016, 04:41:07 am »
Double Strike !

Yet another double strike with ghosting on an Aradian era date 130, one can see around the prow area that the details become very confusing. See also coin HO in my collection which shows a more profound double strike (please follow provided link below).

https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2015/03/29/ar-no-tpap-130n12-b-ho/


Additional images of Athena figurehead (Ἀθηνᾶ Πρόμαχος) and Poseidon seated left, including the Phoenician date visible twice can be found on my website linked below.

https://phoeniciancoins.wordpress.com/2016/04/23/double-strike-with-ghosting/

 

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