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Offline Tanit

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Help Galerius Follis
« on: September 28, 2021, 04:21:10 pm »
Hello

This Galerius follis has a different reverse legend than the RIC with KAR instead of KART. Is there an explanation for this difference, especially since it does not seem to be due to a bad minting of the coin?

Obv.: MAXIMIANVS NOB CAES
Rev.: SALVIS AVGG ET CAESS FEL KAR

10.3 g. ; 27 mm

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Re: Help Galerius Follis
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2021, 05:42:11 pm »
I believe that there was "T" but now is obliterated. Compare your coin with the specimen attached below: "T" is virtually in the exergue.
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Re: Help Galerius Follis
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2021, 06:43:43 pm »
I believe that there was "T" but now is obliterated. Compare your coin with the specimen attached below: "T" is virtually in the exergue.

On the example you show, we read KART while on mine the T does not exist. I even looked under the microscope there is no trace of a T.

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Re: Help Galerius Follis
« Reply #3 on: September 28, 2021, 07:17:31 pm »
Well, I see something which might be a remaining of T. And I think that you will agree that your coin is not in an excellent condition. Also delta in exergue is slightly distorted, "K" looks peculiar etc.
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Re: Help Galerius Follis
« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2021, 07:31:38 pm »
Well, I see something which might be a remaining of T. And I think that you will agree that your coin is not in an excellent condition. Also delta in exergue is slightly distorted, "K" looks peculiar etc.

There is also another difference with the example you are showing. Carthage holds fruit in both hands. In your example the arms are below the shoulders and the fruit is hanging down. On my coin the arms are above the shoulders and the fruit does not hang down.

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Re: Help Galerius Follis
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2021, 08:20:52 pm »
Quote from: Tanit on September 28, 2021, 07:31:38 pm
There is also another difference with the example you are showing.

Because these coins were minted from different dies. I am not convinced that on your coin "the fruit does not hang down". Please, consider that your coin is partially badly worn.
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Re: Help Galerius Follis
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2021, 06:17:35 pm »
In addition to wear, the mostly-missing T may have been from a clogged die.

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Re: Help Galerius Follis
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2021, 08:21:03 am »
In addition to wear, the mostly-missing T may have been from a clogged die.

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We can eliminate the wear because all the letters are clearly legible except the last letter T which we do not even see the trace . The doubt arises from the fact that Carthage is often abbreviated by KART, KAR or CAR. The letter K has moreover the shape of a C than of a K
Here is another sharper photo taken in sunlight.

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Re: Help Galerius Follis
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2021, 09:54:31 am »
I can clearly see a trace of the final T.  It looks exactly like you get with clogged dies.  The dies are not completely blank and there is a faint trace.

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Re: Help Galerius Follis
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2021, 10:11:58 am »
I can clearly see a trace of the final T. 

Me too. I agree that the clogged die is also a reasonable explanation. And there is obviously distorted "K", not "C".
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