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odd Hadrian sestertius
« on: June 03, 2021, 02:49:15 pm »
Dear cf,

Here we have odd Hadrian, it does not look Ancient more like 1900 copy
odd flan crack

legend incorrect
PONT MAX TR POT CO IIII

RIC 249; Strack 533 RIC 561a; Copper 22,69 g.; Obv: IMP CAESAR TRAIANVS HADRIANVS AVG - Laureate head right. Rev: PONT MAX TR POT COS III Exe: SC -
 Jupiter seated left, holding Victory and scepter.
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Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2021, 04:53:20 pm »
By my count it's POT CO IIIII, not IIII.  So they used IIIII instead of V.  Can;t say I've ever seen that on a real Hadrian sestertius...

Not sure it's even 19th century, and definitely not as good as a typical Paduan.  Possibly a more modern fake.
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Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2021, 05:10:05 pm »
See Stack's Bowers, January 11-12, 2013

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Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2021, 06:54:13 pm »
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Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2021, 07:59:47 am »
I was about to post with regards to the same example but to add to is a whole host of additional context. I suspect that this is entirely modern. The same venus has a whole host of other concotions that all appear to be entirely modern in their creation. I know that the rules are that we should limit to one coin per thread but in this case I would like to break this rule as wider context of seeing other coins being sold together is useful.

In conjunction with these are a whole host of other well known fakes which I would also like to include for additional context.

Here are a few more examples that appear to be entirely modern.


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Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2021, 08:03:55 am »
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Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2021, 08:12:47 am »
Other known fakes in the same sale include


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Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2021, 08:15:25 am »
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Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2021, 08:18:14 am »
There are others such as Paduan after casts with no mention that they are cast of Paduans.

There are some which are either heavily tooled of engraved from scratch. For these more questionable examples I might start their own threads to allow individual discussion but thought adding these here to provide context around the OP was of benefit.

I plan to add fake reports for all those above.

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Re: odd Hadrian sestertius
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2021, 08:55:08 pm »
Thanks Martin.
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