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« on: November 06, 2006, 05:07:49 pm »
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Most of the Classical Numismatic Discussion Board posts on learning to read ancient Hebrew on coins have been combined, updated and enhanced in a NumisWiki article. See:

Reading Judean Coins

Below in this thread there are additional examples in that are not in the article, including some Yehud coins. After finishing the article, you might want to go through the posts in this thread to test how much you have learned.

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Hi all Judaean coins lovers.
in this section I will put coins from time to time to help identifying the Cornucopia Judaean types
which is consider as very hard to identify for most dealers and collectors, I notice many mistakes in those coins on line, and hope this will be a guide to all those who have hard time to identify these coins.
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Judah Aristobulus I (Yehudah), 104 - 103 B.C.

Bronze prutah, Hendin 1143 (465), gVF, 2g, 13.0mm, Jerusalem mint,obverse Hebrew inscription, Yehudah the High Priest and the Council of the Jews, surrounded by wreath; reverse double cornucopia adorned with ribbons, pomegranate between horns, an excellent example for scarce coin and Priest.

Please note that ancient Hebrew read from right to left.
See the additional photo.
YHODH (Judah) , KHN (priest) , GDOL (High) , W (and) , HABAR (Council) , H (the) , YHWD (Jews)

ADMIN NOTE:  See Reading Judean Coins on NumisWiki.


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Re: learn Ancient Hebrew.
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2006, 05:09:51 pm »
Alexander Jannaeus (Yehonatan), 103 - 76 B.C.

Bronze prutah, TJC type Q, Hendin 1144 (474), EF , nice center with full script !!!, 2.6g, 15mm,Jerusalem mint, obverse Hebrew inscription, Yehonatan the High Priest and the Council of the Jews, surrounded by wreath; reverse double cornucopia adorned with ribbons, pomegranate between horns, very rare in this condition and with full script.

the script says
YHONTN   (Yehonatan)
KH           (Priest)
GDOL       (High)
W           (and)
(HH)BR   (Council)
H            (the)
YHWDM   (Jews)

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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2006, 10:38:07 pm »
Alexander Jannaeus, 103 -76 B.C.

AE prutah, Hendin 1150 (469), EF with full script between Rays!!!!, 16mm; obverse Star of eight pellets within diadem, ancient Hebrew legend (YHONATHAN H MALEK) = king Alexander; reverse  BASILEWS ALEXANDROU, around anchor.

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Re: Learn Ancient Hebrew on ancient coins.
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2006, 11:16:52 pm »
John Hyrcanus I (Yehohanan), 134 - 104 B.C.
this is one of the finest full script I have ever seen from this type, EX Forum

Bronze prutah, TJC I 62, AJC I group N, Hendin 1133 (456), choice VF+, 2.88g, 13.9mm, 0o, Jerusalem mint, obverse Hebrew inscription, Yehohanan the High Priest and Council of the Jews, surrounded by wreath; reverse double cornucopia adorned with ribbons, pomegranate between horns, AP monogram below left; very rare full script
The ancient Hebrew script says
NN(HUH)WHY     =   Yehohanan
H          =   the
NHK     =    Priest
LDGH   =     high
H         =     the     ( ancient Hebrew mostly use W = and, in this coin mistakinly they used the !!
RB(HUH) =  Consel
H      = the
MYDHY = Jews.

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Re: Learn Ancient Hebrew on ancient coins.
« Reply #4 on: November 17, 2006, 10:31:44 pm »
I hate to say it, but this is one hard language to understand. At least for me. Most of the judean coins I have seen in hand, are pretty hard to make out the letters, let alone translate them. I am really thankfull that Salem is taking the time to do this. In time I may get better at it, but not without the help I have recieved here. Heck, sometimes I have problems with English!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Re: Learn Ancient Hebrew on ancient coins.
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2006, 12:29:16 am »
John Hyrcanus I (Yehohanan), 134 - 104 B.C.

Bronze prutah, Hendin 1132 (454), gVF, 2.1g, 15mm, Jerusalem mint, obverse Greek letter A above Hebrew inscription, Yehonanan the High Priest and the Council of the Jews, surrounded by wreath; reverse double cornucopia adorned with ribbons, pomegranate between horns, border of dots.

Full script with very nice clear Ancient Hebrew script

A monogram
YHO(HH)NN =(Yehonanan)
H = the
KHN = Priest
H = the
GDOL = high
W = and
(HH)BR = Council
H = the
YHWDYM = Jews

 

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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2006, 12:30:14 am »
John Hyrcanus II (Yonatan), King 67 B.C., Ethnarch 63 - 40 B.C., amazing??

Bronze prutah, Hendin 1159 (479), gVF, 1.4g, 13mm, Jerusalem mint, obverse Crude illegible Hebrew inscription, Yonatan the High Priest and the Council of the Jews, within wreath; reverse double cornucopia with pomegranate between horns.

an amazing example for the type with full Hebrew script.

YNTN  (Yonatan)
H (the)
KHN (Priest)
GDOL (high)
W (and)
(HH)BR (Council)
YHDYM (Jews)

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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2006, 12:31:24 am »
John Hyrcanus II (Yonatan), King 67 B.C., Ethnarch 63 - 40 B.C. [ADMIN NOTE:  This type is attributed to Alexander Jannaeus in Hendin's 5th Edition]

Bronze prutah, Hendin 1149 (478), VF, 2.6g, 17mm,Jerusalem mint, obverse Hebrew inscription, Yonatan the High Priest and the Council of the Jews, within wreath; reverse double cornucopia with pomegranate between horns; overstruck on an earlier prutah, and it is clearly over Alexander Jannaeus, Hendin 1148 (467) since we can read ALEXANDROY BAC, around circle.
 the Hebrew script says
YNTN (Yonatan)
H (the)
KHN (Priest)
GDL (High)
W (and)
(HH)BR (Council)
H (the)
DY (Jews)

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Re: Learn Ancient Hebrew on ancient coins.
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2006, 12:33:06 am »
Judah Aristobulus I (Yehudah), 104 - 103 B.C.

Bronze prutah, Hendin 1143 (465), gVF, 2g, 13.0mm, Jerusalem mint,obverse Hebrew inscription, Yehudah the High Priest and the Council of the Jews, surrounded by wreath; reverse double cornucopia adorned with ribbons, pomegranate between horns, an excellent example for scarce coin and Priest.

Please note that ancient Hebrew read from right to left.
See the additional photo.

YHODH (Judah), KHN (Priest), GDOL (High), W (and), HABAR (Council), H (the), YHWD (Jews)

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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2006, 12:33:50 am »
Alexander Jannaeus (Yehonatan), 103 - 76 B.C.

Bronze prutah, TJC P17, Hendin 1145 (473), gVF, 2.4g, 14mm, Jerusalem mint, obverse Hebrew inscription, Yehonatan the High Priest and the Council of the Jews, within wreath; reverse double cornucopia adorned with ribbons, pomegranate between horns.

very nice example with full Hebrew script, which is very rare for the type.

the script says (read from right to left)
YHONTN ( Yehonatan)
 H (the)
KOHN (priest)
 H (the)
 GDOL  (high)
W (and)
 (HH)BR (consil)
 H (the)
 YHDM (Jews)

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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2008, 10:21:07 pm »
I am now trying to read my own coins using this guide - so first Thanks for the guide!!!

I am having trouble seeing the difference between the letter "R" and the letter "D"

To me they look exactly alike... what is the "difference" that I am missing?

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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2008, 03:09:16 am »
The resh ("R") has a rounded shape, while the dalet ("D") has strictly straight lines.  I know it is very hard to see that on the coins since they are so small, but context is key.  Judaean coins follow a relatively rigid pattern, with a very small corpus of words appearing.  If you ever see  :Judean_shin_1: :Judean_alef_1: :Judean_rosh_2: on a coin, you'd know it was rosh - "head" and not dosh, since dosh is meaningless.  luckily, the names are the most important part, and there is only one name with one of these - Yehudah -  :Judean_hey: :Judean_daleth: :Judean_waw_1: :Judean_hey: :Judean_yad_2:, and none with a resh.  So if you see one of these letters in a name and can't tell the difference, it is a dalet.
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2008, 08:59:47 am »
Zach!

This is most helpful!  I must say being able to notice whether the letter is rounded or pointed is going to be some accomplishment.  Your comment about seeking to understand the letter in context definitely seems like the way to go when in doubt to the shape of the letter.

Now to get a more powerful magnifying glass!!!

Thanks
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« Reply #13 on: June 17, 2008, 11:08:58 am »
Hi John
some times in Judaean coins the script is not realy prefect, you might recognize the R from D and some times  you wont, you have to be familiar with the script at the Judaean coins, but as Zach said when you see a cercle on the stick then it is R, and when you see a traingle then it is D.
but the script ingravers did so many mistakes on Ancient Judaean coins, and some times you cant recognize the R from the D, but you have to read the script to tell, and that is commen too with th K and N some times they look samiler.
try to write the letters on a paper and by the time you will be able to read these coins prefectly.


my friend Zach ROSH comes with W and not Alef    :Judean_shin_1: :Judean_vau_1: :Judean_rosh_2:
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« Reply #14 on: June 17, 2008, 01:26:42 pm »

my friend Zach ROSH comes with W and not Alef    :Judean_shin_1: :Judean_vau_1: :Judean_rosh_2:


Hi Salem!
I'm pretty sure rosh is usually spelled with an aleph.  It is a strange word, but throughout the Bible and on the coins, it is spelled ראש.  If you look up Genesis 40:20, rosh is used in the same sense as on the coins - head of a group of people.  Here (as well as all other examples in the Bible) it is spelled ראש, or  :Judean_shin_1: :Judean_alef_1: :Judean_rosh_2: in Old Hebrew. 

And that's good advice about writing it out on paper!  That's probably the best way to learn it - by actually writing it yourself over and over again. 

and glad I could be of help, John!  good luck!

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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2008, 05:50:51 pm »
Modern Hebrew spells it with aleph. A quick look at Kaufman shows that aleph is normal on the coins as well, but that doesn't rule out the odd one with waw.
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2008, 06:28:51 pm »
Biblical Hebrew uses exclusively aleph, as well.  That doesn't mean that some coins could use a waw, but I think if there is a 'pure' spelling of the word, it is with an aleph.  All Biblical authors use the aleph spelling.  It has to do with the fact that the word was committed to writing before the shift occurred that changed the word from rash (as in Aramaic and Arabic) to rosh.  I will try to dig up my notes on the word from one of my classes a little later.
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2008, 05:57:28 pm »
The Masoretic Text is medieval, hence effectively modern. Do you have anything on the spelling in the Dead Sea Scrolls? I could check it out at a pinch, but since they're around the Hasmonean period, give or take, I'd expect it to be aleph, the same as the coins.
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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2008, 09:02:48 pm »
The Masoretic Text is medieval, hence effectively modern.

I wouldn't say that... Modern Hebrew (revived in the 1880s) is very distinct from the Hebrew of Ancient Israel.  They are Medieval, but they have a much closer link with Israelite Hebrew than with Modern. 

Also, the Masoretes may have fooled around a bit with vowels, but they left the consonants alone.  The texts were not written by the masoretes, merely pointed with vowels where there had not previously been any in use.  The aleph is an archaism that snuck into Hebrew writing.

I've found the notes from the class -

(* indicates stress of previous syllable, š indicates SH sound, ‘ indicates aleph, CAPS indicate a long vowel)

Proto-Semitic original word - ra‘*šu
aleph elides, a lengthens to A - rA*šu
Canaanite shift of A to O - rO*šu
final case ending drops - rOš*


so, the word was committed to writing before the elision of the aleph in Canaanite/Phoenician times, and did not change after that.  The common spoken word did change, as can be seen by the Masoretic insertion of an O vowel.

As for early spellings of Rosh, there is an example of the word spelled with an aleph in the Siloam/Hezekiah's Tunnel inscription, from sometime before 701 BCE.  Line six.  http://www.kchanson.com/ANCDOCS/westsem/siloam.html


wow... we've gotten a bit off topic... maybe this would make a good separate thread?


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« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2009, 11:56:05 am »
Here's another example, in the style of Salem's illustrations of a prutah of Alexander Jannaeus. This is my best prutah, with a full, readable inscription. I've noticed on many of these coins the various renderings of the letters resembling the older Phoenician script. Of course the two alphabets are virtually identical, having the same names for characters, and possessing very subtle differences in writing style during their evolution over time. (i.e. Kaf)

Anyway, this thread got me to dust off my Hebrew books and take a closer look at my Judaean coin collection.

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« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2009, 12:02:16 pm »
Here's a chart of the Aramaic / Proto-Hebrew Alphabet that I put together for reference.

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« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2009, 12:08:50 pm »
Also, here is a chart of the old Phoenician alphabet, from omniglot.com. Compare the writing style with Proto-Hebrew / Aramaic

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« Reply #22 on: September 08, 2009, 07:55:56 pm »
Alexander Jannaeus (Yehonatan), 103 - 76 B.C.


YHONTN   (Yehonatan)
 KH           (Priest)
GDOL       (High)
 W           (and)
 (HH)BR   (Council)
 H            (the)
YHWDM   (Jews)

I'm pretty sure hachaver (HHBR) means lit. "The friend".    The hebrew is יונתן הכהן, חבר של היהודים, Yonatan the High Kohen (like the last name :)), and the friend of the Jews.  
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« Reply #23 on: September 09, 2009, 06:03:54 pm »
It means 'the Council of the Jews'. It's probably a safe bet that this is the Hebrew equivalent of the Greek sunedrion, or sanhedrin.
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« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2009, 08:10:21 pm »
Alexander Jannaeus (Yehonatan), 103 - 76 B.C.

Bronze prutah, TJC type Q, Hendin 474, EF , nice center with full script !!!, 2.6g, 15mm,Jerusalem mint, obverse Hebrew inscription, Yehonatan the High Priest and the Council of the Jews, surrounded by wreath; reverse double cornucopia adorned with ribbons, pomegranate between horns, very rare in this condetion and with full script.

the script says
YHONTN   (Yehonatan)
 KH           (Priest)
GDOL       (High)
 W           (and)
 (HH)BR   (Council)
 H            (the)
YHWDM   (Jews)

How does KH mean Kohen? Is'nt that just "ka"?
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