Author Topic: Eugenius (Read 1115 times)

ChefStu22 · « **on:** August 27, 2021, 08:38:17 am »

Afternoon Guys, as the topic suggests I'm pretty sure the coin is 'meant' to be Eugenius but given the reverse looks like a she wolf and Romulus and Remus and I can't find any coin like this I presume it's another dude!? I am unable to post weight and dimensions currently but can do at a later date if required.

Cheers as always for any help Stuart

Will A. Hooton · « **Reply #1 on:** August 27, 2021, 09:04:01 am »

Very odd style for Eugenius....and the legend says Eugenius. Doesn't look official to me.

ChefStu22 · « **Reply #2 on:** August 27, 2021, 09:07:40 am »

Afternoon Will its certainly an odd coin, its come from a seemingly trustworthy seller who certainly sells genuine Roman coins so potentially he has let a dud note dude slip through his net. In all likeliness i shall probably make contact with him and see where i stand with it. Cheers Stuart

Will A. Hooton · « **Reply #3 on:** August 27, 2021, 09:11:13 am »

I am not expert in this era but the style of the bust certainly stands out from the others. I don't say its a modern copy. My theory was of a contemporary imitation.
However, I'd wait and see what the others say. Maybe someone has the appropriate references at hand.

ChefStu22 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 27, 2021, 09:52:11 am »

Cheers for your opinion Will, be interesting to see if anybody has anything else to add

Will A. Hooton · « **Reply #5 on:** August 27, 2021, 11:54:56 am »

No problem Stu. I hope someone else can authenticate it as genuine for you!

Meepzorp · « **Reply #6 on:** August 27, 2021, 01:01:38 pm »

Hi folks,

Has this coin been tooled?

Meepzorp

ChefStu22 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 27, 2021, 01:05:31 pm »

Sorry Meep I'm a complete novice so not entirely sure what that means or how I can demonstrate that with pictures but I'm happy to try under suggestion

Will A. Hooton · « **Reply #8 on:** August 27, 2021, 02:17:47 pm »

Tooling means some skilled person in engraving takes a low grade coin and sharpens. The details using a graver... Or makes an entirely new design from a crud flan.

ChefStu22 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 27, 2021, 02:36:52 pm »

Ah cheers Will, I would not have the foggiest idea on how to tell if that was the case with this coin infairness I wouldn't even no where to begin.

djmacdo · « **Reply #10 on:** August 27, 2021, 08:40:00 pm »

I think it is just a modern fake.

Arados · « **Reply #11 on:** August 28, 2021, 06:55:16 am »

I agree with djmacdo, your coin looks like it´s the handiwork of a certain Yugoslavian forger. They use a multitude of names on a certain website, the majority of which can be found in NFSL.

ChefStu22 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 28, 2021, 07:33:13 am »

Cheers guys appreciate the feedback. It was bought off of said site but i check the nfsl and it wasn't from somebody on there and the seller had flawless feedback and all the other roman coins looked perfectly legit to me. So not sure it would be entirely fair to have him added to the list but not sure how that works on here? Cheers again guys. Have a good weekend

Will A. Hooton · « **Reply #13 on:** August 28, 2021, 07:51:28 am »

I wouldn't add anyone to the fake sellers list for a one off. But since the coin is dubious, I would definitely expect my money back. Have a nice weekend you too!

Hydatius · « **Reply #14 on:** August 31, 2021, 07:49:31 am »

Yes, a terrible fake
Richard (who also lives in Ottawa)

Joe Sermarini · « **Reply #15 on:** September 04, 2021, 10:10:57 pm »

Fake coin report please.

maridvnvm · « **Reply #16 on:** September 08, 2021, 09:04:44 am »

Looks like it is from the same engraver as one which is made from modern dies and sold out of Serbia. I tried to attach images to this thread but have failed. I get a 503 Forbidden message if I try to attach anything

Joe Sermarini · « **Reply #17 on:** September 09, 2021, 04:38:12 pm »

Quote from: ChefStu22 on August 28, 2021, 07:33:13 am

Cheers guys appreciate the feedback. It was bought off of said site but i check the nfsl and it wasn't from somebody on there and the seller had flawless feedback and all the other roman coins looked perfectly legit to me. So not sure it would be entirely fair to have him added to the list but not sure how that works on here? Cheers again guys. Have a good weekend

You cannot actually decide if this seller will or will not be added to the list. You only need to decide if you should nominate the seller. Then others may comment. Sellers are not added to the list unless I am convinced they are intentionally or repeatedly negligently selling fakes. I must believe they are a notorious fraud and then I will add the seller to the list. To nominate or not to nominate is entirely up to you.

maridvnvm · « **Reply #18 on:** September 10, 2021, 04:23:11 am »

Images of coin mentioned above

ChefStu22 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 01, 2022, 05:45:34 am »

Sorry Joe, I shall be honest I forgot to check this thread and have only just seen your reply. This was the first time I had purchased from this seller, but from looking at the other coins he was selling which in my humble opinion all looked legit and his feedback I would like to think that he bought this coin for the same reason as I did because it was unusual when evidently should have set off alarm bells because it was unusual as it was fake 🤦 but we live and learn thank you for the clarification on how the fake sellers list is added to. Sorry again for such a late reply

Joe Sermarini · « **Reply #20 on:** February 04, 2022, 02:18:39 pm »

No worries.

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Author Topic: Eugenius (Read 1115 times)