Greek imperial coin

[krazy]

It measures about 17 mm. I think it is Geta from Nikopolis ad Istrum. The reverse might be a type of http://www.wildwinds.com/moushmov/plates/large/IX.jpg (postion 15), basket with fruits. Any help will be appreciated.

Regards, Dany

[mauseus]

Hi,

It is Geta and the town is Plotinopolis in Thrace I believe. Sadly I don't have any references for this town.

Regards,

Mauseus

[archivum]

Looks more like a peculiarly written MARKIANOPOLITWN with a scarcer reverse; I agree that it's Geta.

[mauseus]

Hi,

It is PLOTEINOPOLEITONOC. The obverse looks like it may also die link to mine (but with a different reverse type).

Regards,

Mauseus

[archivum]

Well, though Varbanov (Bulg.) lists no issues for Geta from this mint at all, there does seem to be an obverse match between your own specimen and this one from Wildwinds:

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/geta/_plotinopolis_AE17_Moushmov_4741-A.txt
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/geta/_plotinopolis_AE17_Moushmov_4741-A.jpg

There is still the odd matter of that reverse legend (PLWTEINOPOLEITWNOS); what are those two last letters doing there even after the genetive plural?

[curtislclay]

According to the Wildwinds text, the rev. legend is exactly as expected,

"PLWTEINOPOLEIT, WN in exergue."

[archivum]

Yes, the Wildwinds coin does have that legend *, but what about krazy's coin?

   * Also Mauseus' specimen at https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=25309.msg222961#msg222961

[curtislclay]

It's just a dark blob on my screen, on which I can only make out a few letters from the middle of the legend, not the alleged termination WNOS.

[archivum]

There does seem to be at least one extra letter to the right of the TWN in the exergue, and it's quite an odd place for a random spelling-error; not only for Geta, these small-module issues from this mint are so hard to find that it's hard to make useful comparisons.

[archivum]

Here's a beaten-up specimen of what's very likely the same issue, but minus the terminal mystery-letter(s):

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=13167.0

[krazy]

It really seems that this coin is struck in Plotinopolis (wich I hear for the first time) for Geta. I'll try to find out what is the correct legend of the reverse if I buy this coin. Thank you all for your help.

Regards, Dany

[Akropolis]

I attach a lightened image which shows that Curtis is correct: Plotinopolis!
PeteB

[archivum]

Yes, agreed (see the other enlarged image above); but from both pictures it's also clear Mauseus was not simply seeing things out there at the end of the legend -- an O-shaped blob merely, then?

[Akropolis]

I cannot explain the  "blob,"

but Curtis wrote:

"PLWTEINOPOLEIT, WN in exergue."

I  "think" I see "TWN" in the exergue, preceeding the "blob."
PeteB

[mauseus]

Hi,

Yes, agreed (see the other enlarged image above); but from both pictures it's also clear Mauseus was not simply seeing things out there at the end of the legend -- an O-shaped blob merely, then?

Glad I wasn't seeing things  

Well, though Varbanov (Bulg.) lists no issues for Geta from this mint at all, there does seem to be an obverse match between your own specimen and this one from Wildwinds:

http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/geta/_plotinopolis_AE17_Moushmov_4741-A.txt
http://www.wildwinds.com/coins/ric/geta/_plotinopolis_AE17_Moushmov_4741-A.jpg

There is still the odd matter of that reverse legend (PLWTEINOPOLEITWNOS); what are those two last letters doing there even after the genetive plural?

Attached is my Geta Plotinopolis which is the same type as the Wildwinds coin.

Regards,

Mauseus

[curtislclay]

Mauseus' coin seems to read

PLWTEINOPOLEIT

for sure, thereafter maybe,

WN right side up in exergue.

I see little support for the improbable error

PLWTEINOPOLEITWNOC.

A nice and very rare little coin in any case!  Varbanov (English) 1864 lists and illustrates another specimen, on which the end of the rev. legend is also hard to read.

[krazy]

Varbanov (English) 1864 lists and illustrates another specimen, on which the end of the rev. legend is also hard to read.

Specimen for the "basket" reverse or "snake" reverse?

[curtislclay]

The Snake on Altar reverse.

[tacrolimus]

What's the obverse's legend?
It seems on both type the ending reads KAICAP.
Is it L Ce GeTAC KAICAP?

Thank you
Luigi

[mauseus]

The Snake on Altar reverse.

Hi,

Re Varbano's description, is it more a cippus than an altar?

Regards,

Mauseus

[curtislclay]

Varbanov call it an altar, but that means little, since the book is overflowing with errors!

He reads the obv. legend

P CE GETAC - KAICAP,

which seems plausible but not certain in his image.

Source of his specimen: "private collection".

[archivum]

Does Varbanov (Eng.) have the basket-reverse we began with? Given the curious extra "letter" appearing on one not the other, I'm still quite surprised at what otherwise looks like a die-match between krazy's coin and the one in Reply #9.