Unique bronze of Geta from Ephesus?

[Robert]

Hi, all. I got this coin and i am looking for another one. Has anyone met? Is it unique? The obverse is identical to https://www.sixbid-coin-archive.com/#/de/similar/l30997086?text=ephesos%20geta. But I can't find the reverse anywhere. I found similar representations on the coins of Julia Domna, Geta's mother.

Will be gratefull for help.

Ionia, Ephesos.Geta bronze. 6,65 g, 23 mm
obv. draped and cuirassed bust of Geta right, AYT K Π CE ΓETAC.
rev. EΦECIΩN B NEOKOPΩN, Diana/Artemis standing left, holding lighting torch in both hands, quiver on shoulder.

I looked for similar depictions from Ephesus and for sure Diana/Artemis holding a torch in two hands appeared on the reverses later after Galien and Valerian, although there it is to the right.

[Tom Mullally]

I think you are misreading the obverse legend, it is actually: Λ ϹEΠ ΓEΤΑϹ ΚΑΙϹΑΡ. Karwiese 551

[Robert]

I think you are misreading the obverse legend, it is actually: Λ ϹEΠ ΓEΤΑϹ ΚΑΙϹΑΡ. Karwiese 551

Correct. Thank you for pointing out the error in the description. I copied a legend from another listing when I was trying to idenificate and describe it. Could I have a photo of this coin plate and description from the catalog Karwiese  please? Does the reverse also match my coin?

Thank You,

Robert

[Joe Sermarini]

Robert, Of course the reverse matches. Tom would not have given you the reference otherwise. Don't turn a favor into a chore. You have your answer.

[Robert]

Robert, Of course the reverse matches. Tom would not have given you the reference otherwise. Don't turn a favor into a chore. You have your answer.

Hi Sir,
I apologize if my request was misunderstood. I had already received this reference from an other numismatist, but he wrote that in Karwiese 551 Hecate is on the reverse. On my coin, however, there is Artemis. (the almoust the same as Diana Lucifera from denarii of Julia Domna) I don't have access to Karwiese and I can't check the reverse. Hence my curiosity. I would like to know where is the error.

Robert

[Curtis JJ]

I think Karwiese uses "Artemis" not "Hekate" (or "Hecate"). Occasionally you see the deity on coins of Ephesus described as "Artemis-Hekate" (the syncretic deity; see, e.g., https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG57043), as on these results in RPC [LINK].

Artemis and Hekate (and the Roman Diana) are related deities, and occasionally people use them interchangeably, which is probably what happened here. Whether doing so is correct or mistaken -- and under what circumstances to use Artemis, Hekate, or Artemis-Hekate -- are different questions. But in this case, it sounds like they are talking about the same coin (i.e., Kawiese 551, Artemis on the reverse).

[Altamura]

This type is also described in SNG Copenhagen as number 425 (same coin as in Karwiese?):
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t5370948g/f54.item (description)
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t5370948g/f55.item  (plate)
the deity is called Artemis.

About Hekate and her identification with Artemis:
https://www.theoi.com/Khthonios/Hekate.html
https://www.theoi.com/Khthonios/HekateGoddess.html#Artemis

Regards

Altamura

[Robert]

I think Karwiese uses "Artemis" not "Hekate" (or "Hecate"). Occasionally you see the deity on coins of Ephesus described as "Artemis-Hekate" (the syncretic deity; see, e.g., https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG57043), as on these results in RPC [LINK].

Artemis and Hekate (and the Roman Diana) are related deities, and occasionally people use them interchangeably, which is probably what happened here. Whether doing so is correct or mistaken -- and under what circumstances to use Artemis, Hekate, or Artemis-Hekate -- are different questions. But in this case, it sounds like they are talking about the same coin (i.e., Kawiese 551, Artemis on the reverse).

Thank you very much for the explanation. Perhaps this is the reason. Greetings from Warsaw, Robert

[Robert]

This type is also described in SNG Copenhagen as number 425 (same coin as in Karwiese?):
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t5370948g/f54.item (description)
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bd6t5370948g/f55.item  (plate)
the deity is called Artemis.

About Hekate and her identification with Artemis:
https://www.theoi.com/Khthonios/Hekate.html
https://www.theoi.com/Khthonios/HekateGoddess.html#Artemis

Regards

Altamura

Thank You very much! I am glad to see "tween sister" of my coin You are very helpfull. Greetings, Robert

[Tom Mullally]

I will try to get a photo and description for you but it might be a day or two.  We're in the middle of laying out our next printed sale so I don't have much free time at the moment.

Tom

[Robert]

I will try to get a photo and description for you but it might be a day or two.  We're in the middle of laying out our next printed sale so I don't have much free time at the moment.

Tom

Thank you very much , I'll wait. Have a great work with sale.

Robert