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Author Topic: Numiswiki guide to English pronounciation of ancient words and names  (Read 9613 times)

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Offline Automan

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The issue of English pronounciation of ancient words has been raised several times. I started an "article" in Numiswiki that might serve as a guide, both to non-native speakers and English native speakers who might not benefit from discussing ancient numismatics with other people often enough to pick up on how to pronounce some of the more obscure words.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/numiswiki/view.asp?key=pronunciation

I hope that some of the more knowledgeable members of this Forum will help out with this project!

If there is a particular word you do not know how to pronounce, add it to the list of entries and ask someone to help out with the pronounciation.

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Re: Numiswiki guide to English pronounciation of ancient words and names
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2005, 06:04:42 am »
Great Idea Automan! I personally have never really had the oportunity to discuss ancients conversationally with anyone so I have lots of words I am un sure of. I will add some to the list as I have time.

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Re: Numiswiki guide to English pronounciation of ancient words and names
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2005, 07:34:43 am »
Hey Great idea! I've already added a couple, will add more when I have time.

One question: what about when there is more than one correct prononciation of a word? i.e. U.S. versus English versus Australian (in my case) prononciation. For extreme cases, can we add alternative pronounciations and just put a (AU) or (US) in front?

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Re: Numiswiki guide to English pronounciation of ancient words and names
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2005, 09:03:54 am »
One of the best things about NumisWiki is you don't have to ask for permission (well for almost anything I guess).  If you want (AU), (US) and (UK), just do it!
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Re: Numiswiki guide to English pronounciation of ancient words and names
« Reply #4 on: November 02, 2005, 03:41:24 am »
Good idea about adding languages to the pronounciation guide!

That really is one of the best thing about this kind of project; an idea started by someone can be improved by someone else!

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Re: Numiswiki guide to English pronounciation of ancient words and names
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2006, 08:00:53 pm »
The concept of having a pronounciation guide is a fantastic one.  I am no student of Latin, but would love to learn more about how to pronounce what I am studying.  And the wikipedia style of allowing people to add content is also a fantastic concept... but it also makes it hard to ensure what is being documented is correct.

Like I said, I am not latin scholar, but I think there is some pretty bad miss pronounciations on there.

For example, the page suggests the following:
Ceasarea: ses-uh-REE-uh   

From what I know, C's are always 'hard' ie like K's.   Wouldn't it be more like Kai-sar-ee-uh? (don't know about the stress)

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Re: Numiswiki guide to English pronounciation of ancient words and names
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2006, 09:20:24 pm »
As the title says - it is a guide to the standard English  pronounciation - which is correct with the soft C - not a guide to the correct pronounciation in Latin or Greek - although you are at liberty to create these yourself...

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Re: Numiswiki guide to English pronounciation of ancient words and names
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2006, 05:04:07 am »
Ahh right. Sorry. 
I guess I must be slow tonight (lack of sleep from my 3 week old baby?) but I don't quite understand the point of a guide that teachs english speakers how to say latin words in an english way  ???


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Re: Numiswiki guide to English pronounciation of ancient words and names
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2006, 02:39:29 pm »
If you read this thread you might get an idea on the rationale:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=23103.0

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Re: Numiswiki guide to English pronounciation of ancient words and names
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2006, 07:42:34 am »
I think there will always be arguments over pronunciation. Most English-speakers would look at the spine of one of my books and see 'Sissero'. You can't change that, but we do have to be honest about it's being an Anglicisation. I look at it and see 'Kikero', and I know I'm not the only one here.
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