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My first Geta
« on: March 14, 2011, 09:40:36 am »

My first Geta is an assarion from Olbia.
AMNG I/I Tafel XII/1, but I miss still the
description.

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Re: My first Geta
« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2011, 10:43:15 am »
AMNG entrusted the cataloguing of the coins of Olbia and Tyra to Grand Duke Michailovich of Russia, who however never completed the task, I imagine because of WWI and the Bolshevik revolution. Cf. AMNG I.2.1, p. 918.
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Re: My first Geta
« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2011, 11:49:02 am »

Yes, I see. The coin pictured is referred
to the collection in "Giel".

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Re: My first Geta
« Reply #3 on: March 14, 2011, 11:57:08 am »
Where or who is Giel?
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Re: My first Geta
« Reply #4 on: March 14, 2011, 12:26:12 pm »
AMNG entrusted the cataloguing of the coins of Olbia and Tyra to Grand Duke Michailovich of Russia, who however never completed the task, I imagine because of WWI and the Bolshevik revolution. Cf. AMNG I.2.1, p. 918.

Which Mikhailovich ?

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Re: My first Geta
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2011, 12:48:03 pm »
AMNG entrusted the cataloguing of the coins of Olbia and Tyra to Grand Duke Michailovich of Russia, who however never completed the task, I imagine because of WWI and the Bolshevik revolution. Cf. AMNG I.2.1, p. 918.

Which Mikhailovich ?

Alexander.
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Re: My first Geta
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2011, 01:53:51 pm »
Where or who is Giel?

As this ref. is so prominent  (more items than in Moscow or
St. Peterburg), it must have been near ancient Olbia: Odessa?

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Re: My first Geta
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2011, 02:25:33 pm »
You're probably right that it's the German name for a Russian/Ukranian city that had a substantial German population. There is no mention of the name Giel in the Wikipedia article on Odessa, however.
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Re: My first Geta
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2011, 02:29:58 pm »
Here is my coin. Previous collector had description in
Polish, but referred to de Blaramberg, Paris, 1822.

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Re: My first Geta
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2011, 04:17:09 pm »
May be that this is of interest for others too:

Numismatics in the time of tsars - Numismatical Societies
In 1888 the first numismatical society was founded in Moskow (MNG). The members were famous collectors and scientists - colleagues of the Academy of Science, Institute of Archaeology and several museums - like A.V.Oreschnikow (1855-1933), F.I.Prove (1872-1934), I.I.Gornung (1827-1905), S.I.Tschizshov (1870-1921), Ch.Ch.Giel (1837-1908), Baron W.G.Tiesenhausen (1825-1902), N.M.Turbin (1850-1913) und Prince I.I.Tolstoi (1856-1916). By their work they gave the Russian numismatics its direction.
In 1911 St.Petersburg followed with an own numismatical society.
The activities of the MNG were numismatics and archaeology. It supported scientifical enquiries, held discussions and numismatical exhibitions and published beside its research results a kind of Annual (2 volumes 1911-1913). Since 1898 the meetings of the MNG members took place in the Historical Museum, were the library and the collection of coins, medals and other stuff of the MNG were placed.
The MNG was not big, in March 1915 there were 107 members, which exclusively were devoted to scientific research and collecting coins and were not disposed to allow commerce.  About 44 members lived in Moskow, some in other countries.
Similar numismatical associations existed in other Russian cities, but their activities were not so important as the MNG. In 1914 by instigation of the MNG the Russian Numismatical Society was founded which should unify all local societies to one all-Russian organisation. But that remains an attempt only - after 2 years the RNG was disbanded (1).

His full name was Christian Christianovich Giel. He was one of the most influential numismatists of his era (2).

Source:
(1) http://www.muenzenwoche.de/de/Archiv/8?&id=245&type=n
(2) http://www.numislit.com/Sale%20120/SALE%20120.pdf

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Re: My first Geta
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2011, 04:59:31 pm »
Thanks for the info. I've made a note in my copy of AMNG.
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Re: My first Geta
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2011, 03:55:34 am »

Excellent information.
This coin is also mentioned on page 74 of the introduction.

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Re: My first Geta
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2011, 06:17:23 pm »
I like your coin their much rarer than his brother Caracalla, I have tons of him and only 4 of Geta here are mine if you would like referrence material I can provide it I like his coins alwas young one of them an olympic issue. Yours is a very nice example.
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