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Offline XLi

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I bought this coin on eBay last week,but I'm not sure it is genuine or fake,the imperial mantle of Roma looks very strange in this Type(Siscia mint.)

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Re: Help!Is it genuine or not?Anonymous issue commemorating Rome?
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2009, 02:45:55 pm »
The style doesn't look official; maybe a contemporary counterfeit rather than a modern fake.
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Re: Help!Is it genuine or not?Anonymous issue commemorating Rome?
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2009, 08:28:29 pm »
boy, a wide variety of dies for this type! But I agree with Robert, it does not look right, with right being the style of about 98% of the genuine ones. I don't know enough to be sure on this one though.

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Re: Help!Is it genuine or not?Anonymous issue commemorating Rome?
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2009, 09:28:45 pm »
Looks official to me - the imperial mantle is a little more ornate (e.g. herringbone pattern down side, in addition to pellets) than some, but this sort of minor variation does exist. Nice coin!

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Re: Help!Is it genuine or not?Anonymous issue commemorating Rome?
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2009, 08:04:23 am »
I want to hear more opinions on this coins.Thanks everyone!

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Re: Help!Is it genuine or not?Anonymous issue commemorating Rome?
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2009, 09:10:14 am »
The gamma officina of Siscia produced some fairly ornate bust types.   The reverse looks completely official, yet the obverse nags just a little bit.  But I see nothing wrong with the coin, even if it were a contemporary counterfeit as Robert suggests.  You might want to send a PM to leetoone and invite him to weigh in on your coin.  I believe he collected this series quite extensively for many years.  He would be one of the resident experts on this specific issue.

Here's my example, from a batch of uncleaned coins, purchased in 2000.   - Jon

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Re: Help!Is it genuine or not?Anonymous issue commemorating Rome?
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2009, 09:38:25 am »
Your coin seems official to me-Here is my very ornamental bust from Siscia for comparison

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Re: Help!Is it genuine or not?Anonymous issue commemorating Rome?
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2009, 03:13:39 pm »
What about the obverse? That staring eye seems odd.
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Re: Help!Is it genuine or not?Anonymous issue commemorating Rome?
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2009, 05:44:49 pm »
Official and nice, I think the style is well within the acceptable range of official variations for this abundant issue.

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Re: Help!Is it genuine or not?Anonymous issue commemorating Rome?
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2009, 02:34:13 am »
Eye and chin are "unusual", but the overall impression is OK to me.

I have also an example for Siscia with ornamented cuirass

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Re: Help!Is it genuine or not?Anonymous issue commemorating Rome?
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2009, 03:16:13 am »
I can't remember ever seeing a silvered one.
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Re: Help!Is it genuine or not?Anonymous issue commemorating Rome?
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2009, 05:04:48 pm »
Potator, You as always with the best of the best, beautiful piece. Congratulations.
Xli, I think your coins is ok.

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Re: Help!Is it genuine or not?Anonymous issue commemorating Rome?
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2009, 10:54:52 am »
Quote from: areich
I can't remember ever seeing a silvered one.
It's not exactly sivered, but with a black, glossy patina reflecting the light  :)

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Potator, You as always with the best of the best, beautiful piece. Congratulations.
Thanks Mario :angel:

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Re: Help!Is it genuine or not?Anonymous issue commemorating Rome?
« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2009, 02:42:38 am »
The Lincoln penny of the ancient world!
Plenty of varieties of these are out there. This is official, I am quite certain. A particularly nice example of one of these, too.
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