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Offline antvwala

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An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
« on: December 21, 2008, 04:20:56 pm »
An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange

I have in my collection an epigraphic follis very strange: it is of Leo VI and in the field there are the letters "AC". How think you of it?

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Re: An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2008, 02:14:22 am »
Bizarre.  The only thing I can think of is that the A and C might refer to Alexander and Constantine, and that the intended succession was for Alexander to be the senior co-emperor. 

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Re: An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2008, 06:27:57 am »
Thank you Obryzum.

Then, it is possible that coin is a provisional coinage of Alexander during revolt against Leo (912-913)? If yes, then it is very rare!

Do you know other examples of epigraphic coin with letters in field?

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Re: An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2009, 08:21:04 am »
Very interesting!
I think that your attribution of this follis to Alexander and Constantine is exact  :)

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Re: An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
« Reply #4 on: October 09, 2009, 10:29:27 pm »
I think I found a die match.

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Re: An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2009, 02:51:18 am »
Hello Obryzum: in the last coin, do you read AC?

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Re: An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2009, 03:29:08 am »
It sure looks like AC to me.  I cannot imagine what else it could be.  Your coin clearly says AC, and I think this is an obverse die match.  The same letters are prominent, and the same areas are soft on the legend.  However, your coins looks like it has a better strike, but also shows more wear..

The earlier coin I posted seems to have something in the left field.   I also see "AC" in that coin, but to me it looks like there was an attempt to merge the letters into the design so that it was not as obvious.  Quite honestly, without seeing your coin first, I probably would not have guessed "AC" for that first coin.  For the second one, I am sure it is AC. 

But now back to the original question -- what could the AC mean?  Alexander and Constantine?  The Patriarch Antony Cauleas?   

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Re: An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2009, 09:11:09 am »
Yes, I agree with you: it is now clear that there is follis countermarked AC and I think that your initial hypothesis of Alexander and Constantine is very logical and acceptable.

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Re: An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2010, 11:01:29 pm »
Another one?  Or an optical illusion?


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Re: An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2010, 02:25:27 am »
Not this one, if you consider the right traces of undertype or metal roughness.

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Re: An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2010, 09:52:09 am »
Yes, I suppose you are right.  But what a coincidence to see such a similar pattern. 

Nice COD, by the way!

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Re: An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2010, 11:37:45 am »
I always check every offered Leo VI follis so that to find an AC copy for my collection as well.
Many times I thought that I saw something, but I will just called it "wishfull thinking" :(

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Re: An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
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Re: An epigraphic follis of Leo VI very strange
« Reply #14 on: July 19, 2014, 02:41:09 pm »
Hmmm interesting discussion..


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