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Some nice Bone dice from Rome
« on: July 12, 2014, 05:17:28 pm »
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Re: Some nice Bone dice from Rome
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2014, 05:41:47 pm »
Those are cool!
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« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2014, 05:44:01 pm »
Thank you Mat :)  +++

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Re: Some nice Bone dice from Rome
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2014, 01:27:56 pm »
Very nice! Wish I had one or two in my collection.

Question: How did they make them different colors?
Different die or the soil they were found in?

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Re: Some nice Bone dice from Rome
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2014, 02:10:36 pm »
Very nice! Wish I had one or two in my collection.

Question: How did they make them different colors?
Different die or the soil they were found in?

Hi  :)

 I hope the different soil are behind of the different color, and may be black is burnt bone taken... ?

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Re: Some nice Bone dice from Rome
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2014, 04:36:49 am »
You have to be very careful.  These Roman dice are very frequently faked. 

At a recent militaria show I saw a "dealer" who had 90% fake coins.  As I was examining the fakes - it is always good to look at and handle these things - I saw him pull out a plastic bag FULL of fake dice.  A huge bag.  I would have easily displaced a litre or two.  There must have been several hundred dice in it.

Frankly I have serious concerns about your dice.  The colouring is unnatural and unlike anything I have seen in any museum. 

The fabrication is too perfect.  Genuine dice were hand made, or at least using simple tools - such as the drill-bow rig used to make the dot-and-eyes.  Modern fakes are made using machine tools like belt sanders and band saws, though they can then be rasped with a file by hand to try to give them a genuine look.

And, mostly importantly, they lack the proper aging of genuine bone articles.  Bone (and horn and ivory) also ages and develops a "patina".  It is hard to describe and best learned from examining genuine pieces.  Surfaces usually have a mix of very glossy smoothness, rough parts and cracks.  Many cracks are very fine but go quite deep.  the staining is uneven and follows the cracks and rougher portions.

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Re: Some nice Bone dice from Rome
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2014, 04:03:45 pm »
Hi Shawn..
First of all I would like to thank you to attention... +++

I hope my examples are not fake but I m not sure.. I will examine them ,
the source are right but who knows ???

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