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Offline lv88

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was justinian truly one of the greatest byzantine emperor ?
« on: August 08, 2004, 07:35:21 pm »
in books that we read, lessonbooks from which we learn, and tv documentaries that we watch regard justinian among one of the greatest byzantine emperors, during whose reign the empire reached its greatest territorial extent. however when justinian invaded the west he had to buy off the persians which were a grave threat to the empires eastern borders, and by the time of his death the treasuries of the empire were empty, and after the reign of justinian ended the entire southern portion of the empire fell, and persians , then arabs, as well as asiatic barbarians threatened the ensuing rulers. after his reign we see a loss of the entire southern empire - egypt and alexandria -a major city of the empire, the breadbasket of the empire, as well as jerusalem. the only gains of justinian that were kept for a significan period was present day area of the former yugoslavia, sicily and portions of italy - mainly in the south.

 however, if justinian paid more attention to the sassanians and the general rise of islam, would things have gone more differently ? would the empire gain major stability as during the reign of basil II who once and for all descicively took care of the bulgars who in the previous century nearly took constantinople and took over the empire and brought what is in my ophinion the era of the empires greatest peace and prosperity ?

ophinions appreciated

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Re:was justinian truly one of the greatest byzantine emperor ?
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2004, 04:10:03 am »
I can tell you this. When the Ostrogoth arrived in Italy they make the economic situation much better and the commerce started again. They also created a stable political situation with alliances with other barb populations. You see in this period an increasing number of coins circulating.
After the gothic was of Iustinian the italy was devasted and there were really no economical life ... the coin practically disappeared from everyday life and the barter was used again

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Re:was justinian truly one of the greatest byzantine emperor ?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2004, 09:25:47 pm »
true, territories invaded probably became war ravaged, the money spent in basically pursuing ones ego was a big waste, the money would have went to better use otherwise.

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Re:was justinian truly one of the greatest byzantine emperor ?
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2004, 08:17:56 am »
Levon,

Early Byzantine is not my specialty but I decided to put my 2 cents in.  The Byz empire lasted 1,000 years and yes history has been kind and has remembered Justinian well. Why shouldn't it. His empire was at its peak, he created some incredible monuments and his wife Theodora  is probley the best known of all of the Byzantine Empresses( Great love story there.). I would also guess more books have been written about him than any other Emperor. Was he great yes. One of the greatist? I am uncertain but he was the ruler durring a great time for the empire.

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Re:was justinian truly one of the greatest byzantine emperor ?
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2004, 08:45:03 am »
He was certainly one of the greatest Byzantine rules. ;) Naturally the barbarians and the people his armies beat the seven shades of sugar out of (for a while) arent going to remember him too fondly. But if you were a Byzantine, you would have loved him. Nothing is more popular than a succesful military leader, and the average redneck Byzantine wouldnt have given a damn if the treasury was being drained and the campaigns werent going too well "on the ground", as it were.
Most historians have considered that the reconquest of the Roman empire by Justinian was doomed to failure because the damage to the infrastructure was so severe it would be too expensive and time consuming to repair, and wouldnt survive another invasion, something which Justinians administration probably didnt even think of.
   Justinian could be compared with Trajan, great military leaders, did a lot of good but when it came down too it, it was basically an enormously expensive ego trip. Justinian & Theodora, she was practically co ruler. 8)
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Re:was justinian truly one of the greatest byzantine emperor ?
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2004, 10:36:47 am »
It's not a problem of beaten barbarians. All the economy of italy was practically destroyed by iustinian, while during the ostrogoth period it was greatly increasing. the final touch was given my longobards.

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Re:was justinian truly one of the greatest byzantine emperor ?
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2004, 10:40:53 am »
all invasions destroy economies, much as we like to pretend otherwise. The key thing is to rebuild them afterall and thats what let Justinian down. Most of the barbarian invasions didnt have a catastrophic impact on the economies of the areas involved as they were really militant migrations. :)
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Re:was justinian truly one of the greatest byzantine emperor ?
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2004, 09:58:37 am »
Usually in history are remembered rulers who conquered territories and not the ones who managed to keep territories. Justinian conquered a lot in the Western Europe and North Africa, but it was a spectacular and yet fragile conquest, while in the East were concentrated the true energies of the Empire , soon to be lost mainly because of Justinian's western politics. Besides the military affairs don't forget about the codification of law -Codex Justiniani- monuments build-Saint Sophia and why not, his very long reign 527-565, things that make him a great emperor.
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