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Nikolaus I. of Russia
« on: March 01, 2004, 06:18:18 pm »
Hi to all with Russian knowledge!

Here are 2 other not ancient coins I have questions about:
(The kyrillic letters I have transcribed to latin letters!)

1. 5 Rubel gold, Nikolaus I., 1836. Obv. shows:
    tschistago zolota i zolotnik 39 dolci

2. 5 Rubel gold, Alexander III., 1889. Obv. shows:
    imperator i samodermets wserossinskie

Anyone there who can translate this Russian legends?

Regards,
Jochen

(These are the last not ancient coins I post, I promise!)


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Re:Nikolaus I. of Russia
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2004, 04:04:11 am »
About the fisrt coin it's 1 zolotn(ik) and 39 doljei [it's not a c but je]
It is referred to the weight of the coins

1zolotnik = 4.27 grams
1 zolotnik = 96 doljei

Indeed the coin weight is 6.544 grams, 0.917 of gold. So the bullion is exactly 1 zolotnik and 39 doljei  ;)

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Re:Nikolaus I. of Russia
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2004, 07:14:56 am »
Thanks again!

Jochen

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Re:Nikolaus I. of Russia
« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2004, 01:21:01 pm »
Hi Jochen,

tschistago zolota  - pure gold.

imperator i samodermets wserossinskie - Emperor and Lord of all Russia.

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Re:Nikolaus I. of Russia
« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2004, 03:08:44 pm »
I think you guys know all!
Thanks,
Jochen

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Re:Nikolaus I. of Russia
« Reply #5 on: April 06, 2004, 05:09:02 am »
I think it is better that in latin letters words should look like this:

"zamodershavech vserossiskije"  -  "Autocrat of all Russia"  

otherwise your "samodermets" (PLS. DO NOT SAY IT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES TO ANY RUSSIAN!)  
zamo + dermo = self + stuff   (zamodermets = smbd. who can be stuff or who is personal stuff)

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Re:Nikolaus I. of Russia
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2004, 05:13:56 am »
OK seems we have here self-acting "cleaning" program and some words you can not use - but I did not mean word STUFF but word   S.H.I.T.  and I'm sorry if somebody feels now offenced

once again:
zamo + dermo = self + s.h.i.t. (zamodermets = smbd. who can be s.h.i.t. or who is personal s.h.i.t.)

thank you :)

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Re:Nikolaus I. of Russia
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2004, 04:38:33 pm »
Thanks God, that I never visit Russia to ask these questions!

Thanks,
Jochen

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Re:Nikolaus I. of Russia
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2004, 03:58:15 pm »
Corvus, you are mixing the words. "Äåðæàò" in Russian is the verb "to hold", so autocrat is a good and accurate translation. "Äåðìî" is the smelly word you are mentioning but it has nothing to do with the verb  ;D

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Re:Nikolaus I. of Russia
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2004, 03:59:09 pm »
Hm, forgot that the system does not support Cyrillic. The verb is "derzhat", to hold

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Re:Nikolaus I. of Russia
« Reply #10 on: April 07, 2004, 04:00:38 pm »
And, of course, the word is "samoderzhets", not samodermets. The confusion comes from the elaborated script on the chervonets (the gold coin)

 

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