Author Topic: Not sure if stupidity qualifies it as a fake, but... (Read 5719 times)

Bamba123 · « **on:** July 09, 2008, 01:04:15 am »

On a "auction" website this is the unedited body of the sale:
Dear Ebay Buyers, my first account is "nikaieon" more than 750 feedbacks, search me on Ebay.

Here on sell a very very rare coin in gold of Caracalla from the Balkans' city of Onilticne.

The legends are in greek:

The name, not very understandable of Caracalla.
The name of the city, Onilticne, probably in the Balkans.

The coin is like the "covered aurei" and was covered with a very very thin layer of copper that
has been completely by me, I'm a skilled numismatic, removed to show the gold,
it weight more than 3 gr and is more than 20 mm.

The coin come from my private roman coin collection. All the items sold are
authentic, genuine and ancient. Will be issued a certificate of authenticity and a photograph,
under the italian laws on numismatic matters. Shipping is in insured air mail, free.

Estimate: 3000$

Now the hilarious punchline: the pics

Mark Z · « **Reply #1 on:** July 09, 2008, 01:47:40 am »

Bamba,

Just when you think you've seen everything...

Nice find

Thanks for the smile!
mz

commodus · « **Reply #2 on:** July 09, 2008, 02:47:28 am »

Yep, this has "skilled numismatist" written all over it.

Enodia · « **Reply #3 on:** July 09, 2008, 03:10:46 am »

Quote from: commodus on July 09, 2008, 02:47:28 am

Yep, this has "skilled numismatist" written all over it.

LOL!
well, you have to be amused by the audacity!

saholz · « **Reply #4 on:** July 09, 2008, 08:10:58 am »

Actually, this is very good news! I think I must have hundreds of gold coins hidden under layers of copper. I'll have to start removing all that nasty copper and bronze layering to get at the gold that lies underneath. I'm going to be rich!

Stan

Bill S · « **Reply #5 on:** July 09, 2008, 09:03:13 am »

I'm almost afraid to ask, but how goes the bidding for this "treasure"?

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Yep, this has "skilled numismatist" written all over it.

Keep in mind that "skilled" does not mean "knowledgeable" or even "intelligent". The poor guy might indeed be skilled at peeling layers of metal from coins, and perhaps a little unclear as to what a numismatist actually is.

casata137ec · « **Reply #6 on:** July 09, 2008, 11:01:31 am »

Quote from: Bamba123 on July 09, 2008, 01:04:15 am

...I'm a skilled numismatic...

Skilled at what!!!???!!!

Chris

Bamba123 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 09, 2008, 11:30:12 am »

There was NO bidding on that lovely gold coin. I filed a complaint with fleabay and got a long reply in Italian that basically said they would investigate sometime in the next 2-3 days on the sale which was over 3 hours later. His opening bid was $900, which means he was also as skilled at sales as he was at being a "numismatist". I guess when you look into a mirror and hope everyone out there is as stupid as who your looking at you post a $3000 copperless coin..

I thought everyone would get a kick out of that auction
Jim

Hydatius · « **Reply #8 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:24:08 pm »

Quote from: Bamba123 on July 09, 2008, 01:04:15 am

Will be issued a certificate of authenticity and a photograph,
under the italian laws on numismatic matters.

He's not a complete moron: he knows something about Italian laws. This certificate is indeed a requirement, as is an export license, though he doesn't mention that (he can't produce one himself). The buyer must get a copy of both.

Richard

awl · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2008, 12:28:51 pm »

In his other account he is sure this provincial is gold too....
[BROKEN LINK REMOVED BY ADMIN]

(through google translator)

This is an extremely fine currency, in pure gold, get. Very very rare.
They are like the deck aurei.
It's old, authentic and genuine, and is sold on the Italian law
numismatic issues (2006): reception, authenticity and photography.

If you have any questions you can ask me through Ebay.

SEPTI GET / MVNICIPI STOBIENSIUM

City: Stobie

In pure gold and real old, guaranteed.

It is not completely cleaned, but it is guaranteed that is pure gold, tested.
The money comes from my private collection of Roman coins.

I am Dr. Luca Giambonino, writer of history and coins and a professional
Numismatic. Search google to see me in that I am.

Rich Beale · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2008, 01:16:08 pm »

Clearly a very, very dishonest person or someone so moronic that he would do well to remove himself from the gene pool for the benefit of all mankind. Or both.

Will Hooton · « **Reply #11 on:** July 09, 2008, 02:58:44 pm »

Quote from: awl on July 09, 2008, 12:28:51 pm

I am Dr. Luca Giambonino, writer of history and coins and a professional
Numismatic. Search google to see me in that I am.

Did that. Got nothing except his own website and his ebay listings. He is also listing a Licinius I follis as SOLID GOLD!!! Wow! get in there folks!!!

Edit: I have just been viewing some of his blog entries under his other handle, and well....the term non compos mentis arises.

areich · « **Reply #12 on:** July 09, 2008, 03:05:20 pm »

He has another coin listed as 'oro puro' which is just as bronze as the others.

Bamba123 · « **Reply #13 on:** July 09, 2008, 05:39:13 pm »

I may be wrong, but I think he is a she and she is about 20 years past infecting the gene pool. Been a member under this name since '07. I have a feeling someone is trying to trade off the other persons name. It would be sad if it weren't just so funny. I will wait and see what EBay italy says in the end, although I think it is there policy to say nothing. So when they don't do anything its all in the dark.

commodus · « **Reply #14 on:** July 09, 2008, 06:57:45 pm »

Yes, Luca is a feminine name. So the person's a SHE, not a HE. The observations above still apply.

Jochen · « **Reply #15 on:** July 09, 2008, 07:14:17 pm »

Hi Commodus!

Luca Toni is a football star from Bayern München and I'm sure he is a man!

Best regards

commodus · « **Reply #16 on:** July 09, 2008, 08:49:32 pm »

Poor guy!
Yeah, come to think of it I recall a character in one of Mario Puzzo's novels who was named Luca and was male also. I guess it is one of those names that can be used for either gender.

Hydatius · « **Reply #17 on:** July 09, 2008, 09:20:27 pm »

How about Dr Luka Kovac from ER? He's definitely a guy!

Richard

commodus · « **Reply #18 on:** July 09, 2008, 11:23:39 pm »

Yeah, yeah, it can go either way. Got it.

Mark Z · « **Reply #19 on:** July 10, 2008, 12:14:21 am »

what a funny thread this is turning out to be :-D

mz

ps Luca Brazzi is the button man in the godfather novel

hysterical :-D

mwilson603 · « **Reply #20 on:** July 10, 2008, 01:52:33 am »

Quote from: commodus on July 09, 2008, 11:23:39 pm

Yeah, yeah, it can go either way. Got it.

Take a look at http://www.gpeters.com/names/baby-names.php where it tells you what the likelihood for a name to be masculine or feminine is. According to it "Based on popular usage, it is 11.822 times more common for Luca to be a boy's name.". So it might go either way, but if you meet a 6'4" person called Luca at a bar, and they are wearing high heels and a dress, remember that they are statistically more likely to be a man

regards

Mark

commodus · « **Reply #21 on:** July 10, 2008, 02:57:52 am »

Yeah, in the Godfather -- that's the Luca I mentioned before (Puzzo's novel).
Well, anyway, statistics or not, the "expert numismatist," copper coating removing Luca in question IS a woman. Check out her info.
Regardless, we've gotten way off topic and it is partially my fault.
I have met some Lucas and they were all women. I'm also aware that there are men named Evelyn, Andrea, and Maria out there. It still doesn't make those masculine names.
Now, back to coins...

Will Hooton · « **Reply #22 on:** July 10, 2008, 03:29:03 am »

Odd thread!

Well, dont deny me my two asses; Luca is Italian for Luke, the same way Marco is for Mark, Gianni is for John amd Andrea is for Andrew. But you guys are right. Luca can also be a womans name, but she wouldnt likley be Italian. Its the same thing calling your daughter Nikita, which is a russian male name, not female.

Now, indeed back to the coins. I got answer to my challenge:

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this not bronze, it's gold and it's tested. They are new coins discovered in Serbia during last two years are in true gold. I can assure you.

Cordially,

dr. Luca Giambonino

I've heard that one before......

Enodia · « **Reply #23 on:** July 10, 2008, 04:02:37 am »

Quote from: Mark Z2 on July 10, 2008, 12:14:21 am

ps Luca Brazzi is the button man in the godfather novel

hysterical :-D

yeah, and he sleeps with the fishes!

Numerianus · « **Reply #24 on:** July 10, 2008, 04:08:47 am »

Quote from: GaiusGCaligula on July 10, 2008, 03:29:03 am

Its the same thing calling your daughter Nikita, which is a russian male name, not female.

It is not correct. Very rarely but one can meet Nikita as a Russian female name.
Example: Vvedenskaya Nikita.

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