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Author Topic: Cilbanoi Inferiores - Lydia, Hadrian  (Read 1197 times)

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Cilbanoi Inferiores - Lydia, Hadrian
« on: April 20, 2008, 03:48:23 pm »
Coins of Nicaea (Cilbanoi Inferiores) in Lydia seem to be scarce - no entry in wildwinds?

Maybe someone has seen a reference or has more information about this big orichalcum denomination of Hadrian:

Nicaea (Cilbanoi Inferiores) in Lydia, Hadrian, 117-138 AD.,
Æ31 (30-32 mm / 19,44 g),
Obv.: [AVTO?]K AVΓOVCTOC - AVP AI AΔPIAN[OC?] , laureate, draped bust of Hadrian right.
Rev.: KIΛBIANΩN - [TΩN?] ΠЄPI NЄI-K[AIAN?] , Zeus(?) seated left, holding patera, eagle at his feet, Nike standing behind on low basis, crowning Zeus with wreath.
Sear GIC - ; coinarchieves - ; wildwinds - ; asiaminorcoins.com - .

Historia Nummorum cites a type for Nicaea/Lydia: "Goddess seated before naked Apollo and crowned by Nike standing on eagle (Num. Zeit., xx, Pl. I. 17)"

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Re: Cilbanoi Inferiores - Lydia, Hadrian
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2008, 04:12:36 pm »
Same reverse-type at least (brief description from Isegrim; your own obverse description looks right, and it's hard to imagine that Imhoof would just have misread it):

PRO: LYDIA
PO : CILBIANI
PZ : Between 161 and 180 
TIG: PERI NEIKAIAN
 Obverse
VSG: A KAIS AYRHLIOS
VT : PORTRAIT MAN R / MARC AUREL
VA : BEARD / CLOTHES
 Reverse
RSG: KILBIANWN TWN PERI NEIKAIAN
RT : PERSONS 2 / MAN SITTING L(1) / ZEUS(1) / BIRD / EAGLE / WOMAN WALKING L(2) / NIKE(2) / ON / GLOBE
RA : THUNDERBOLT(1) / WREATH(2) / BRANCH PALM(2)
 Technical details
M  : AE
GR : 33(1)
 Bibliographical references
ZIT: IMHOOF GRM S120,1(1) / COLL IMHOOF(1)
 Additional remarks
FR : VS: A KAIS AYRHLIOS RS: KILBIANWN TWN PERI NEIKAIAN 
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Re: Cilbanoi Inferiores - Lydia, Hadrian
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2008, 04:15:13 pm »
How exciting!  Once I got one from Ano Kilbianoi, but a Trajan.  And I haven't seen any for sale from either the upper or the lower town ever since.  One of my oldest coins (from 2000); it was what taught me to expect to learn a whole world of geography in Asia Minor.  But, though I've looked, I've never found one from Kato Kilbianoi--and here you have one.  Pat L.
Here's mine (00 in the date means that it took me so long to identify it that I'd forgotten the month):
•00 VII 00a  AE20  Trajan  Laureate head to r.  N]ER TR    AIANOS SE  Rev.  Tyche with rudder to l.  Legend preserves parts of KILBIANION TON ANO, which Sear GIC lists, p. 603, Cilbiani, in Lydia, where indeed it appears on Map 5.  But he lists no coins of Trajan there under Trajan, nos. 1016-1033 being Lydia.
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Re: Cilbanoi Inferiores - Lydia, Hadrian
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2008, 04:27:34 pm »
I was really surprised finding no entry for Cilbanoi Inferiores in wildwinds and only "a handfull" in coinarchieves.
(After all my 7 specimens also aren´t that much for 20 years collecting.)

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Re: Cilbanoi Inferiores - Lydia, Hadrian
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2008, 05:53:38 pm »
These two coins should be communicated to Michel Amandry for RPC Nerva-Hadrian!
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Another one hard to find from the Cilbanoi Inferiores
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2009, 01:57:43 pm »
Hello,

i found no listing for this so far:



Cilbianoi Inferiores (Nikaia) in Lydia, pseudoautonomous issue, ca. 200-270 AD.,
Æ 18 (18-20 mm / 3,11 g),
Obv.: NЄI - KЄA • , draped bust of Tyche wearing mural crown right.
Rev.: NЄIKAЄΩN K - [IΛ]-BIANΩN , Nike walking left, holding wreath and palm.
RPC online - ; Imhoof-Blumer, "Lydische Städtmünzen" (1897), - . Sear GIC - ; online resources - .

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Re: Cilbanoi Inferiores - Lydia, Hadrian
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2009, 03:11:28 pm »
Nice coin! I could not find it in my books either, although BMC lists two specimens with the same obverse. Books checked: BMC Lydia, SNG Aulock, SNG Leypold, SNG Righetti, Lindgren I+III, Imhoof-Blumer KM.

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Re: Cilbanoi Inferiores - Lydia, Hadrian
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2009, 04:31:13 pm »
Isegrim has turreted NEIKEIA and NEIKA but not this reverse.  Nice!  archivum
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