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Offline zoser

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Ephesos, which Magistrate?
« on: September 27, 2021, 04:46:47 am »
Can someone tell the Magistrate's name?

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Re: Ephesos, which Magistrate?
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2021, 04:55:08 am »
Size? Weight? Other side? And perhaps sharper pictures.

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Re: Ephesos, which Magistrate?
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2021, 06:03:37 am »
Looks to read "THΡOΣΩHI", is this correct?


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Re: Ephesos, which Magistrate?
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2021, 06:12:19 am »
Imhoof lists this found in GCAM:
Province, Region:   IONIA
Place of minting:   EPHESUS
Minting period:   Between -280 and -258
Name of magistrate(G):   HROP'WN
Name of magistrate(G):   ΗΡΟΦΩΝ
Obverse
Type:   ANIMAL / BEE / WITHIN / BIRD'S-EYE VIEW
Reverse
Legend(G):   HROP'WN
Legend(G):   ΗΡΟΦΩΝ
Type:   ANIMAL RECUMBENT L / STAG
Attributes:   HEAD R
Technical details
Metal:   AE
Diameter (mm):   17.00(1)
Weight (g):   3.96(1)
Bibliographical references
this coin:   IMHOOF KM S51,19(1) / COLL IMHOOF(1)

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Re: Ephesos, which Magistrate?
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2021, 10:13:48 am »
It clearly does not look like ΗΡΟΦΩΝ, and THΡOΣΩHI does not seem to be a Greek name :-\.

In Benseler, "Wörterbuch der griechischen Eigennamen", Braunschweig 1870, you find on page 472 the name HPOΣΩN or fully HPOΣΩNTOΣ:
https://books.google.de/books?id=4KVGAAAAcAAJ&hl=de&pg=PA472#v=onepage&q&f=true
which probably is the one here.

Benseler mentions that this name occurs on a coin from Erythrai, described in Mionnet Suppl. VI-1, page 216-17, numbers 921-22:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k399118x/f220.item

Coins of this type are these:
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b103093640
https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b10309366w

So the magistrate's name on the coin here is HPOΣΩN(TOΣ), this is a real Greek name occuring on ancient coins  :), we only have (at least up to now) no reference for coins from Ephesos with this name  :-\.

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Re: Ephesos, which Magistrate?
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2021, 02:29:33 pm »
HPOΣΩN is listed as a name occurring on coins of Ephesus in the 2nd cent. BC by Leschhorn, Lexicon of Greek Coin inscriptions (2009), p. 539, citing Fraser and Matthews, A Lexicon of Greek Personal Names (1987 ff.) and Kinns, unpubl. Cambridge dissertation on coins of Ionia (1980).
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Re: Ephesos, which Magistrate?
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2021, 01:39:42 pm »
HPOΣΩN is listed as a name occurring on coins of Ephesus in the 2nd cent. BC by Leschhorn, Lexicon of Greek Coin inscriptions (2009), p. 539, citing Fraser and Matthews, A Lexicon of Greek Personal Names (1987 ff.) and Kinns, unpubl. Cambridge dissertation on coins of Ionia (1980).

I can confirm Curtis' determination, the name is HPOΣΩN;
adding that it is the same type as shown in Kinns' article in NC 1999, p.96, Type ‘F’.
Since that article Philip & I have tripled the number of Magistrates found therein.

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Re: Ephesos, which Magistrate?
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2021, 04:47:32 am »
... I can confirm Curtis' determination, the name is HPOΣΩN;
adding that it is the same type as shown in Kinns' article in NC 1999, p.96, Type ‘F’. ...

But do we have a real printed reference for HPOΣΩN on a coin from this type of Ephesos (and not only someone who knows someone who has somewhere seen such a coin ;) )?

In the dissertation of Philip Kinns I only find HPOΣΩN on coins from Erythrai, in the 1999 NC article HPOΣΩN isn't mentioned :-\.

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