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Offline moonmoth

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Forum changing what we type
« on: December 02, 2008, 02:54:21 am »
Greetings, Forum admins!

If you look at the bottom of this thread:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=49442.0

You will see that if we type the word p-h-a-r-m-a-c-e-u-t-i-c-a-l (without dashes) into a posting, Forum changes the text of the word into "I am a spammer."  (First noticed in a post by Manzikert, who is not one). This is disconcerting.  Do Forum staff know about this?  Is Forum changing anything else that we type?  Is there a list of banned words somewhere?

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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2008, 03:20:31 am »
That one happened to me, too.  I had to change to a word that does not routinely occur in efforts to sell on line pills and elixirs without prescriptions...  I was only talking about ancient uses of poppies, of course.  The only other one I know about is the difficulty in alluding to every Tom, Dick, and Harry.  In my case, I was talking about my dear deceased professor, whom we all called Dick, and I had to use his full name Darrell.
I must say that the server's effort to identify senders of tinned processed meat makes more sense than eliminating one of the commonest and most innocuous nicknames in English.  I mean, the server lets us write Peter...
But we HAVE had spammers breaking in here.
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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2008, 03:22:46 am »
A sensible alteration might be to put a post threshold on it: over a certain number of posts, and the anti-spam features would be deactivated.

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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2008, 07:46:41 am »
The discussion board does have a banned word list.  The software comes with its own list of banned words and replacements but allows modification.  The list is visible only in the admin section.  The list includes the names of most modern drugs, a few phrases related to quick money making, and a lot of porn related words and phrases.  Most of the banned words come from an online SPAM keyword list. 

I get a lot of satisfaction from seeing a spammers post modified to announce what they are, rather than what they are selling

I don't think it is possible to turn off the banned word list for some users but not others. 
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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2008, 08:10:44 am »
Well, as long as we long-time users know what the situation is, we can watch for this and work around it, using dashes as I did above, for example.

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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2008, 08:19:35 am »
I just removed dick, penis and vagina from the banned words list.  The first because it is a name, the last two because they may be appropriate for some discussions on this board.  The only other words that seems to have actually been used in posts are pharm... and another name for a cat.  The former, I think should stay banned to ID spammers.  The second, which changes to "girlie thingy" I left banned just because I find the results very amusing. 
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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2008, 09:37:21 am »
I mean, the server lets us write Peter...
Pat L.

Hey, I resemble that! :-)
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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2008, 02:38:31 pm »
In memory of my mentor, D. A. Amyx, whom we all called Dick, I thank Joe wholeheartedly.  I, too, think 'girl thingy' is funny (in Are You Being Served?, that deathless British sitcom, Mrs. Slocum had a 'girlie thingy' joke in every episode; for example, they got tickets to the ballet, which occasioned entrechats being translated as "between p------").  Whoever made the list for the server software has to have been the age group of my other dear friend, Pete, their list containing a bunch of 23 skiddoo (if I recall that correctly) slang, which for many years now the Oxford University Press has printed.  For the genuinely coarse words, I know lots of Greek and Latin equivalents to use.  Pat L.

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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2008, 02:40:42 pm »
Not that I want to discuss penises and vaginas so much but it's good to know that I could.

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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2008, 04:15:54 pm »
I think this is an great  feature that will hopefully reduce the risk of clicking to a spammer site

LOL  they ( spammers ) haven't realised that people do not want to deal with company's that have to rely on spam for advertising.

so can these " edited words" be changed to anything ?  this could become real amusing   :)


EDITED   LOL  hopefully rogain will not be added to the list  as I will need some soon  :)

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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2008, 04:19:55 pm »
I just have a high forehead!  >:(
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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2008, 04:21:25 pm »
LOL  mine is a high forehead too,  starts at my eyebrows  and goes all the way to my back  :)

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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2008, 04:24:35 pm »
I just have a high forehead!  >:(

+1  :'(

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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2008, 05:08:21 pm »
It gets hilarious at times. I'm on a gardening list which uses the same software, and people regularly discuss their chickens. It won't accept 'cock' (I cheated there) and the distorted sentences can be grotesque.
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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2008, 05:14:26 pm »
¿uʍop-ǝpısdn ǝdʎʇ oɥʍ sɹǝsn ɹosuǝɔ ǝɹɐʍʇɟos ǝɥʇ uɐɔ

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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2008, 06:59:52 pm »
I think this is an great  feature that will hopefully reduce the risk of clicking to a spammer site
LOL  they ( spammers )haven't realised that people do not want to deal with company's that have to rely on spam for advertising.

Unfortunately the basis for spam marketing is that it is so incredibly cheap per person bothered by it.  It only needs the tiniest percentage of people to end up making a purchase to make it worthwhile.

The only factors to go against people using spam marketing: ethics (yeah, I know) and legal repercussions.

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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #16 on: December 02, 2008, 07:28:54 pm »
In memory of my mentor, D. A. Amyx, whom we all called Dick, I thank Joe wholeheartedly.  I, too, think 'girl thingy' is funny.  Whoever made the list for the server software has to have been the age group of my other dear friend, Pete, their list containing a bunch of 23 skiddoo (if I recall that correctly) slang, which for many years now the Oxford University Press has printed.  For the genuinely coarse words, I know lots of Greek and Latin equivalents to use.  Pat L.

When is the next lecture on those words?   :D

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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #17 on: December 02, 2008, 09:16:01 pm »
One uses the equivalents, if those are what you refer to, as context requires.  For example, 'fornicate' in discussing spintria.  Well within my adult lifetime, the OUP did limit what they would print, and Sir John Beazley, describing vase-paintings where satyrs are doing it, masturbating, just formed an otherwise unattested but properly formed middle-voice present participle of the verb dephô, infinitive depheîn which, in context, made perfectly plain what the satyrs were doing.  No, I cannot post those pictures here; they would be offensive to some.  The OUP actually would not print that M word.  The standard was the old one that prevailed for the translation of the Arabian Nights: print nothing harmful to the purity virginibus puerisque.  Consequently, Sir Richard Burton made up a previously non-existent verb, 'futter', simply by anglicizing the French one.  I always suspected that there were guys at the OUP who themselves enjoyed keeping, as Beazley surely did, a bit of their Schoolboy humor, Public School humor, alive by these policies.  The assumption that it's safer for the educated than for the illiterate to have this kind of fun with words is itself bemusing as well as amusing.
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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2008, 03:24:08 pm »
Regarding Richard Burton: He was not only the famous translator of the Arabian Nights, but one of the discoverers of the origins of the river Nile (besides Speke naturally) too. But what is more important for our thread: He was an important collector of erotic literature. His library was full of original works from all over the world, an invaluable treasure! After his death the first his religious or - more correct - saintly wife has done was to burn his library so that no one should recognize the 'abnormal' passion of her husband. The cultural loss by this barbaric act was immense.

Down with political correctness! Up the freedom of mind!

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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2008, 03:27:15 pm »
No wonder he needed this library with such a wife.
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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2008, 07:10:43 pm »
Burton was sent to the Near and Middle East to research and write a vice report of the region (remember, the British were ruling much of it).  He did so, and it is printed in one of the seventeen volumes of the Arabian Nights.  And, as jochen says, . . .
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Re: Forum changing what we type
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2008, 03:03:51 am »
Regarding Richard Burton: He was not only the famous translator of the Arabian Nights, but one of the discoverers of the origins of the river Nile (besides Speke naturally) too. But what is more important for our thread: He was an important collector of erotic literature. His library was full of original works from all over the world, an invaluable treasure! After his death the first his religious or - more correct - saintly wife has done was to burn his library so that no one should recognize the 'abnormal' passion of her husband. The cultural loss by this barbaric act was immense.

Down with political correctness! Up the freedom of mind!

Best regards

And he still had time to act in all those films and be married to Liz Taylor too -- what a guy  :D

 

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