Flavius Victor, SPES ROMANORVM, OTD, Modern Fake!!!

[quadrans]

Flavius Victor, SPES ROMANORVM, OTD,

 Flavius Victor (387-388 A.D.), AE-4 Follis, RIC IX 047a, Arleate, SPES ROMANORVM,  Campgate, Rare!
Avers:- DN-FL-VIC-TOR-P-F-AVG, Diademed, draped and cuirassed bust right.
revers:- SPES-ROMA-NORVM, Campgate, 2 turrets, 4 layers plus 1 layer on turrets, star above, no doors.
exerg:--//P-CON, diameter: 14mm, weight: 1,29g, axes: 11h,
mint: Arleate, date: 387-388 A.D., ref: RIC IX 47a, Rare !

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pos=-105874

Best regards
 Q.

[Pscipio]

This is a modern pressed fake, unfortunately.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-2750

Lars

[quadrans]

Hoops bad news  , I bought more than 5 years ago.... ,,

Thank you Lars I put my "Modern imitation and Fake Gallery"  

Best regards
 Q.


By postvmvs:

"Identified in the Forvm thread on the eBay seller 'Romanseller' (ca. Aug. 2005) but never listed here. An example struck from the same dies (but not the same coin) appeared as Lot 788 of Auction 384-385 (Nov. 2005) by Dr. Busso Peus Nachfolger estimated at 175 EUR, where it was identified as a fake before the end of the sale."

[quadrans]

Hi All :

There should be much more attention to. !!!

Best regards
 Q.

Please Somebody move this thread to .. ""Authentication, Fakes and Frauds""

Thank you

Q.

[gavignano]

This is a modern pressed fake, unfortunately.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-2750

Lars

the pic as shared by Lars shows a portrait that is pretty far off, but the reverse campgate is not far off. the reverse lettering is also pretty off, but if this coin was skillfully  "aged" with wear, it could be quite deceiving. does anyone know of the origin of this fake? I've not seen many attempts at faking a follis of this period, via pressed modern dies.

[Pscipio]

I don't know where the come from, but other types from the same forger's studio exist and they have fooled several experienced collectors and dealers over the years:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-4429
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-2092
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-2747

The pressed fake Didius Iulianus coins from Prusa that have been floating the market the last years may come from the same studio, too, although I am not completely sure about that:

http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=392632
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=682259
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=481104

Lars

[Christopher H2]

Interesting reverse style on the Magnentius though! Even though it is modern, I think it's quite pleasing to the eye.

[Joe Sermarini]

Fake coin report please.

[gavignano]

I don't know where the come from, but other types from the same forger's studio exist and they have fooled several experienced collectors and dealers over the years:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-4429
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-2092
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-2747

The pressed fake Didius Iulianus coins from Prusa that have been floating the market the last years may come from the same studio, too, although I am not completely sure about that:

http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=392632
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=682259
http://www.acsearch.info/record.html?id=481104

Lars

thanks Lars! Definitely similar styles for the first three. I agree that the Didius coins could be different, I'm not sure at all from the same studio.

[quadrans]

Again thank you all  

Lars and gavignano thanks your opinion...


Hi Joe i post the coin in the fake report but I do not have to described the coins only the massage windows was usable. May be I was wrong to use it if some body help me to finalized...

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/fakes/displayimage.php?pos=-15556

Many thanks

Q.

[Joe Sermarini]

Thanks. Fake coin report updated.

[quadrans]

Many thanks..

Q.