My blue
Lipanoff imprint was 100% taken from the authentic host and is an almost perfect copy of the authentic mother, if you would take an imprint of the authentic mother it would look completely identical as my imprint, I explained already in my last post, only two coins are known from these dies and the suspected coin is missing parts of the dotted
border which can be found on my imprint and the authentic mother. My imprint has details missing on the suspected coin so how could the suspected coin with missing detials be used for my imprint?
The picture
quality of the authentic mother is actually not the best but imho it is
still visible that this scratches or
flan flaws on the throat are most likely identical.
And even if scratches or
flan flaws on the throat would not be completely identical you can assume how likely it would be that only two coins from these dies exist and both would have so simiar scratches or
flan flaws on the same position.
But even if we neglect this point and think
filled dies (I never have seen evidence that ancient dies were actually filled with drit etc.) there are
still other serious problems visible on the suspected coin.
WE HAVE HERE ONLY 2 COINS FROM THE SAME DIES AND ONE IMPRINT PROVING THAT FORGERS
HAD ACCESS TO THE AUTHENTIC MOSTHER AND THE CHANCE TO TAKE IMPRINTS AND SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRODUCE TRANSFER DIES.
NOT
GOOD!
ONE OF THESE COINS WHICH IS SUSPECTED TO BE A TRANSFER DIE
FAKE SEEMS TO HAVE IDENTICAL SCRATCES OR
FLAN FLAWS AS THE AUTHENTIC MOTHER.
SAME SCRATCH OR
FLAN FLAW WOULD BE A
VERY GOOD EVIDENCE THAT ONE MUST BE A TRANSFER DIE
FAKE.
If true suspected coin would be transfer die
fake without a doubt, only problem bad pictures.
ONE OF THESE COINS WHICH IS SUSPECTED TO BE A TRANSFER DIE
FAKE, HAS SOFTER DETAILS AS THE AUTHENTIC MOTHER AND NO DETAILS WHICH CAN NOT BE FOUND ALREADY ON THE AUTHENTIC MOTHER AND SHOWS IDENTICAL STRIKE AS THE AUTHENTIC MOTHER; THE DOTTED
BORDER SHOWS IDENTICAL INCOMPLETE AND COMPELTE DOTS FROM STRIKING = IDENTICAL STRIKE.
This is very typical for transfer die and a very serious problem.
If you would make transfer die from the authentic mother and you would
mint a coin with them the transfer die
fake would look exactly as the suspected coin (no new details from the authentic ancient dies and same individual characteristcs from striking visible the way the dotted
border is struck), transfer die
fakes are struck or pressed so new indvidual characteristics from striking can be added like more dots become incomplete and different centering and parts visible on authentic mother can be off
flan on transfer die
fake and so missing.
Not
good.
If the suspected coin would have any new detail from the authentic dies which can not be already found on the authentic mother then either this detail must have been recut or this suspected coin or the suspected coin can not be struck with transfer dies made be this authentic mother.
Generally we must expect to find the dotted
border differently struck on different authentic coins meaning different dots will be
complete and incomplete or missing (flat struck or off center) due to the strike or centering.
This is not the case here the dotted
border is struck identically same dots are
complete and same dots are incomplete and same
area VG of
AVG is flat struck and so dots missing.
If you have two authentic coins from the same dies you can generally find on each details which are missing on the other one due to different centering or strike, wear or corrosion.
In theory it can be of course possible but I have never ever seen that an authentic ancient
mint state coin has no new details from the authentic ancient dies, which are missing on aother coin which has details missing on this coin, that would be a very huge coincidence.
If we have 2 perfectly centered and struck coins in
mint state from the same dies this could be true.
But in really
ancient coins are generally not prefectly struck and centered especially both at the same time and to find two from the same dies would be really difficult to pretty much impossible .
But in reality this was so
afr only true for transfer die
fakes (if dies are not recut) have only the details of the ancient dies which can be already found on the authentic mother + individual characteristics of the mother form striking, environment and circulation.