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Resources => Ancient and Medieval Coin Identification Help => Topic started by: Alan M3 on January 26, 2023, 05:58:21 pm

Title: Help Identify Mystery coin
Post by: Alan M3 on January 26, 2023, 05:58:21 pm
No clue what this is.
Title: Re: Help Identify Mystery coin
Post by: helvetica on January 27, 2023, 06:24:59 pm
Not everybody is familiar with the size of US coins. Is that about the size of a Swiss 5 Rappen piece, or smaller than a Füfliber or the size of 5 Kopeks.... ? See what I mean ? Please give the size in mm (or even inches if you can't work it out) for any coins you need help with.

Also, taking the photo vertically to the coin instead of at an angle (unless the US mint is now producing oval coins) is more condusive to getting assistance, as any legends would then be more visible.
Title: Re: Help Identify Mystery coin
Post by: v-drome on January 27, 2023, 09:30:59 pm
Hi, Alan.  Like this, I think.

UMAYYAD Dynasty: Anonymous, early 8th century, AE fals (Their example is 4.78gm.)
Obv: 1st half of Kalima Inscription below b'smalla, [ بسم الله لا إله إلى الله واحد ] "bism Allah /
La ilah illa / Allah wahadu” in three lines. (In the name of Allah, There is no god but
Allah, He is one).
Rev:  2nd half of Kalima Inscription, محمد رسول الله "Mohammed rasul Allah" around
star.  (Mohammad is the messenger of Allah).

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1277791
Title: Re: Help Identify Mystery coin
Post by: Virgil H on January 27, 2023, 10:35:52 pm
Hi v-drome,

I like that coin you presented. Yet, when I saw this object presented in the first post, it seems as it is oval (could be the angle of photography, but the cent isn't as much an oval as that coin" is) and the reverse looks essentially blank. I thought immediately it was a seal, but don't know enough about those. The plant on yours is similar, for sure, although my first thought was a pot leaf. LOL, that may tell you where my head is. But, the absence of anything on the reverse is what is really confusing me.

Virgil
Title: Re: Help Identify Mystery coin
Post by: v-drome on January 28, 2023, 12:50:01 am
Hi Virgil.  Not likely to be a seal, since it does not look like lead and there is no straight channel.  I have seen a lot of thin Islamic coins that were worn almost smooth on one or both sides.  It sure looks like the object has been through a lot.  The blank side may have been exposed to running water, while the more legible side was protected, but it is hard to say.  I am pretty sure I can make out some of the Arabic letters around the edge of the better side.  I also have a lot of U.S. coins found on the beach that were almost completely effaced in less than 20 years!
Title: Re: Help Identify Mystery coin
Post by: Virgil H on January 28, 2023, 01:23:58 am
I completely trust your much better knowledge here,

Virgil