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Offline Tanit

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Help Caracalla Denarius
« on: October 25, 2021, 09:23:01 am »
Hi

Here is a Caracalla denarius  with the reverse legend: PM TRP XIIII COS III PP. It is RIC 187 C (common).
However, I can't find it anywhere: neither on acsearch, nor Coinarchives, nor Wildwinds....
On the Internet, only OCRE mentions it:

http://numismatics.org/ocre/results?q=Caracalla+RIC+187

So should we consider this denarius as common because the RIC says so or as rare because it cannot be found on the market.

Thanks

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Re: Help Caracalla Denarius
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2021, 09:48:16 am »
 There are several on acsearch:

Some examples

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=702899
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2712182
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=411433
https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=2966075


The problem is that there are some pearls, especially on the reverse, e.g. at the P of P M, at the end of the drapery, or in the right field.
But maybe I just see fakes everywhere again.  :-\

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Re: Help Caracalla Denarius
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2021, 09:50:29 am »
Maybe rarity on RIC was based on Reka Devnia hoard, where 119 coins:


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Re: Help Caracalla Denarius
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2021, 10:05:26 am »
The coins cited in RD by Pekka K are the PONTIF version not the P M version of this coin.

I must admit that I had the same alarm bells ringing as mentioned by shanxi about the surfaces.

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Re: Help Caracalla Denarius
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2021, 01:14:05 pm »

The problem is that there are some pearls, especially on the reverse, e.g. at the P of P M, at the end of the drapery, or in the right field.
But maybe I just see fakes everywhere again.  :-\

I think it's due to artificial light

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Re: Help Caracalla Denarius
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2021, 01:50:11 pm »
The bright spot at 9 on the reverse looks suspicious, along with the overall impression of the coin. Do you have a good macro shot of the edge? Or a nice close-up shot of the area I mentioned that looks suspiciously like a sprue site?
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Re: Help Caracalla Denarius
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2021, 02:54:33 pm »
I believe you are right: it seems to be fake.

 

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