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More New Style Talk:Over-represented New styles
« on: February 26, 2011, 11:47:25 am »


F. De Callatay in the American Journal of Numismatics, second series 3-4 (1991-1992), 1992, brought to the attention that in hoards found in Macedonia and Ancient Thrace, now South West Bulgaria whose composition included Athenian New style tetradrachms,  showed that certain issues were "over-represented" on compositional anaysis. The issues are Eagle on Thunderbolt (Thompson issue 39), Tripod ( 40), Dioscuri (41)  and Prow of Ship ( 44).

It can be seen that they are not in Thompson order, but it had been suspected that the order was not quite correct and in "Thasos/New style Hoard" 1996 by A R Meadows a new order was published that shows that the "over-represented " issues are indeed consecutive.

So in my, as yet, un- published list of New Style order collated from disparate sources, they are given new "Thompson" issue numbers, Eagle on Thunderbolt (39), Tripod (40), Prow of Ship (41), and Dioscuri (42).  The displaced issues ,("Nike "and "Three Graces"), are re-assigned new places based on work by Mattingly who pointed out that the " Three Graces" issue  was intercalary because specimens were known with N on the amphora but had been placed in an "ordinary" year. These are now "Thompson" issue 43 and 44 respectively.

The big puzzle is why are they over-represented? 

It was posited that they were not actual Athenian minted coins but local imitations, however the many specimens have differing amphora month marks and  mint control marks in various combinations. These would be unnecessary embelishments on imitations, also they are stylistically and die linked to undoubted Athenian minted issues.

So it appears there was around 126- 123 BC a big call for the importation of Athenian silver.

Roman closure of Macedonian silver mines and other Roman control measures have been proposed but nothing so far has been satisfactorily fitted , but it opens a new horizon on Athenian influence in the 120's BC that was unknown until research on New Style Athenian tetradrachms was undertaken.

It might have come to some Forum members notice that  a few dealers on V- Coins and definitely on UK E-Bay have  recently acquired quite a number worn examples of Eagle on Thunderbolt and Dioscuri types . It can be confiedently stated that there must have been a hoard find and that it most likely was from South West Bulgaria.

That the coins are worn shows that they were in "local" circulation a long time and in mixed hoards they are often found with late Thasos type imitations , (dated by Propakov) and sometimes Roman Republican denerii. So the hoards must have been deposited in a later period of crisis.

Unlike many Greek coins they are not mute: they have fascinating stories still to tell.

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