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Identification Help / Which Apollonia? Hermes / Grapes
« Last post by OldMoney on Today at 06:15:36 pm »
Which Apollonia?

AE10, 0.88g, 12h. Obv: Hermes, Rev: Grapes.

I picked up this top coin recently without knowing exactly where it was from, with the
only epigraphic clue being the letters "AΠΟΛΛ" on the reverse. It was not clear whether
this referred to a city or a magistrate.

I was originally going to ask for help working out from where it may have been struck,
but before I did so I naturally worked my through all of the search facilities and various
catalogues, etc., trying to find something - anything - with Hermes on the obverse
and a grape bunch on the reverse.

Bizarrely, perhaps even ridiculously, I went back to the original source and saw that
there was an obverse die-matched coin from the same mint in the same auction
(which I had somehow missed in spite of my specific searches for this type of coin;
how I missed it I will never know
). See lower image.

This second coin gave an answer - but only part of the answer. It revealed the more
complete ethnic AΠΟΛΛΩΝΙΑΤΩΝ, but I still have the problem of working out which
Apollonia it may be.

I have my suspicions that it may be Lydian Tripolis, which was renamed Apollonia for a
short time, but cannot immediately confirm this. I think I can rule out most of the other
cities with the same name, but am open to suggestions.

If anyone has a better idea or can confirm a proper ID then I would love to hear it.

All the best,

- Walter



P.S. As an aside: I recall a chat about whether the proper term is "bunch of grapes" or
"grape bunch", but cannot recall which was which. Can anyone clarify this as well?
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Hi Tom, a copy for the Lancaster office (USA) and another for the London office of CNG have already been on the road for a few days ...
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Hi, all.  I posted this in the Seals and Tesserae section but I wanted to see if any of our ID experts might recognize the partial reverse type.  It is a tough one, but any ideas are welcome.  Thanks, V-drome.

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/board/index.php?topic=128582.0

My gallery of Tesserae from Caesarea Maritima is here:
https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=lastup&cat=-5157
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Ancient Coin Forum / Are imitatives fake or not?
« Last post by Virgil H on Today at 05:06:22 pm »
There was a post in the Byzantine section about fake or imitative coins that confused me a bit. I know I have talked about this in the past, but it got me thinking again. I decided to make a new post rather than respond there.

Here is how I have come to define coins. I would be interested if this is a useful way to categorize them. When I see coin descriptions, I put it in one of my categories.

1. Officially minted coins
2. Contemporary forgeries or imitations: coins made in the same time period of the official coins (when they were circulating) and made to deceive. Upon thinking about it now, I will drop using the word "imitation" because it is confusing. It is an ancient fake, so more desirable than a modern fake.
3. Barbaric imitations: coins made by the various tribes copying established coins from Roman and various Greek and other states. These were not made to deceive, I believe, they were often just too obvious. These are coins from the various areas that produced coinage and are separate and collectible in their own right. I think many of these also fall into Category 1.
4. Modern fake: anything made well after the time the originals were produced, and made to deceive.

My tastes run to trying to only collect Category 1 and 3, but I have one in Category 2 and one in Category 4. Categories two and four are "fakes."

For me, the word "imitation" refers to actual ancient coins that copy another coin and are made in a different place than the coin being copied.

Thanks,
Virgil
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Identification Help / Re: Id ancient coin with nice details
« Last post by djmacdo on Today at 05:02:57 pm »
I guess it could be tacitus, but the portrait and style are typical of ancient imitations of Tetricus.  Legends on "barbaous" coins are often blundered.
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Byzantine Coins / Re: Imitative SBCV 2073 John III Hyperpyra
« Last post by Virgil H on Today at 04:22:52 pm »
Joe,
Your post confused me. I responded here, but just cut the text and am going to make a separate post in a more general category.

Virgil
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Identification Help / Re: IDying the emperor
« Last post by Victor C on Today at 04:02:35 pm »
that's a tau-rho in the left field
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The Members' Gallery / Re: Titus denarius with ravens and dolphins added
« Last post by Jay GT4 on Today at 03:35:01 pm »
Latest addition came in this week.  A denarius of Titus with a dolphin above tripod and two ravens on either side.  A decent portrait and reverse for this rare type:

https://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/displayimage.php?pid=176319

Thanks for looking
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Identification Help / Athena/Asklepios AE19
« Last post by ancientone on Today at 03:24:53 pm »
Help with this one would be appreciated.  Athena and Asklepios 19mm.

Regards,
Charlie
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Identification Help / Re: IDying the emperor
« Last post by Ken W2 on Today at 02:37:20 pm »

It does appear to be a SALVS REIPVBLICAE reverse.  Given the Chi Rho in the left field and assuming Aquileia is the mint, I think we can narrow it down to Theodosius I, Honorius, or Arcadius. I first identified all possible candidates as discussed in Caza LRBT pp. 316-317, and then refined from there using ERIC II to find those who minted in Aquileia with the Chi Rho in the left field. 
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