Classical Numismatics Discussion
  Welcome Guest. Please login or register. 10% Off Store-Wide Sale Until 2 April!!! Explore Our Website And Find Joy In The History, Numismatics, Art, Mythology, And Geography Of Coins!!! Expert Authentication - Accurate Descriptions - Reasonable Prices - Coins From Under $10 To Museum Quality Rarities Welcome Guest. Please login or register. 10% Off Store-Wide Sale Until 2 April!!! Explore Our Website And Find Joy In The History, Numismatics, Art, Mythology, And Geography Of Coins!!! Support Our Efforts To Serve The Classical Numismatics Community - Shop At Forum Ancient Coins

New & Reduced


Author Topic: Unidentified islamic gold coin  (Read 2046 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Lentulus Batiatus

  • Legionary
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Unidentified islamic gold coin
« on: August 04, 2017, 09:11:47 am »
Hi

I need more information to identify this coin, I think it may be from muslim Spain perhaps the Caliphate of Cordoba or  Almoravid Dynasty.

Measures 25 mm and weighs 3.90 grs.

Thanks in advance


Offline Sam

  • Procurator Caesaris
  • Caesar
  • ****
  • Posts: 1934
  • Ego vici mundum
Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2017, 09:43:17 am »
Almoravid dynasty , Mint Esh' Bilia     (  Seville )
Year 518  AH  
Ruler ; Ali bin Yousef
Sam Mansourati

Offline Lentulus Batiatus

  • Legionary
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2017, 10:01:59 am »
Thanks!!   +++

Offline Sam

  • Procurator Caesaris
  • Caesar
  • ****
  • Posts: 1934
  • Ego vici mundum
Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
« Reply #3 on: August 04, 2017, 10:16:22 am »
You are very welcome.

Just give me sometimes , I want to be be 100% sure about the struck date of  AH 518 .

I circled the ruler name for you .

Ali Bin Yousef   (   means  Ali son of Joseph   علي بن يوسف )

Sam Mansourati

Offline Sam

  • Procurator Caesaris
  • Caesar
  • ****
  • Posts: 1934
  • Ego vici mundum
Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
« Reply #4 on: August 04, 2017, 10:34:24 am »
As they say 4 eyes better than 2 :)

Does this look a match to you ?

https://www.acsearch.info/search.html?id=1247303
Sam Mansourati

Offline Lentulus Batiatus

  • Legionary
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2017, 01:23:03 pm »
The characters that you encircled seems almost identical, the only difference I see is the sign to the left.

 I have no idea of arabic writing I do not know if my observation helps you

Thanks again   :laugh:

Offline Sam

  • Procurator Caesaris
  • Caesar
  • ****
  • Posts: 1934
  • Ego vici mundum
Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2017, 01:53:28 pm »
Alright , I think yours date is   AH 518.

the circled word in Arabic , I read it 8   ثمان
As you know no dots here - on coins for some letters -

Ali bin Yusuf bin Tashfin   ruled from (AH 476 هـ/ AD1083 م AH 537 هـ/ AD1143 م)
Sam Mansourati

Offline Lentulus Batiatus

  • Legionary
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2017, 03:43:38 pm »
OK, date is AH 518 or 1125 AD.

Thanks again  +++

Offline Sam

  • Procurator Caesaris
  • Caesar
  • ****
  • Posts: 1934
  • Ego vici mundum
Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
« Reply #8 on: August 04, 2017, 09:59:22 pm »
You are very welcome , to my eyes looks an 8 .

To tell you the truth I had a doubt to be a 5 , but the 5 written in Arabic has a sin (S ) in the end which has 3 vertical lines like the one in circle 1.
The word in circle 2  has only 2 vertical lines in the end , plus they are not identical.
So as we said   AH 518.

Welcome to FORVM  +++
Sam Mansourati

Offline Lentulus Batiatus

  • Legionary
  • *
  • Posts: 9
Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2017, 01:19:17 pm »
Very explanatory and detailed, thanks Sam  +++

Offline Sam

  • Procurator Caesaris
  • Caesar
  • ****
  • Posts: 1934
  • Ego vici mundum
Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2017, 03:02:24 pm »
Welcome to FORVM , the best website of Ancient coins ever , to learn , buy , and make good friends  +++

Sam Mansourati

Offline Henriette A

  • Praetorian
  • **
  • Posts: 28
Re: Unidentified islamic gold coin
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2022, 12:31:02 pm »
 outstanding knowledge Dr Mansourati +++

 

All coins are guaranteed for eternity